2001: A Space Odyssey

i don't friggin' care what they (ie Clarke) said in 2010

Kubrick's take was the simpler one:

"In the specific case of HAL, he had an acute emotional crisis because he could not accept evidence of his own fallibility. The idea of neurotic computers is not uncommon - most advanced computer theorists believe that once you have a computer which is more intelligent than man and capable of learning by experience, it's inevitable that it will develop an equivalent range of emotional reactions - fear, love, hate, envy, etc. Such a machine could eventually become as incomprehensible as a human being, and could, of course, have a nervous breakdown - as HAL did in the film."

http://www.archiviokubrick.it/english/words/interviews/1970superstar.html

This guy posits that HAL was ice cold from the outset.

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0095.html

Once when I was in France, 2001 was on TV in a dubbed version, which I decided to watch because the dialogue is not exactly key to the movie. However in the scene where HAL breaks down, instead of Daisy, Daisy he sings Au Clair de la Lune, which I found most disconcerting. Now I'm wondering whether he sings a different song in every language.

i read that there are a few diff songs

Many non-English language versions of the film do not use the song "Daisy". In the French soundtrack, Hal sings the French folk song "Au Clair de la Lune" while being disconnected.[103] In the German version, Hal sings the children's song "Hänschen klein" ("Johnny Little"),[104] and in the Italian version Hal sings "Giro giro tondo" (Ring a Ring o' Roses).[105]

Bought tickets for the 70mm presentation of 2001 at the Prince Charles. There were plenty of central seats available on the first two rows but I thought that might be insane, so I went about half-way back. It's in a couple of weeks' time.

acc to iNdB trivia, Kubrick did the sound of astronauts breathing.

Bought tickets for the 70mm presentation of 2001 at the Prince Charles. There were plenty of central seats available on the first two rows but I thought that might be insane, so I went about half-way back. It's in a couple of weeks' time.

how was the 70mm screening at the PCC?

It was pretty good, though the print wasn't pristine and I'd forgotten that flat-65mm presentation (i.e, not filmed with anamorphic lenses, like QT's Hateful Eight) is actually "only" 2.21:1, so at first I was distracted by the fact that it wasn't as panoramic as I thought it would be. 2.35 releases (the original DVD? VHS?) are actually letterboxed versions of the 2.21 original.

I wish I had been closer though. The music for the Beyond The Infinite sequence sounded great. And I'd forgotten how much I enjoy the dry economy of the Lockwood/Dullea conversations.

i saw it on 70mm at the bfi but wasnt blown away, maybe as the print wasnt as immaculate as hoped (it looked arid rather than rich), but maybe for the reasons you mentioned too. apparently the pcc now have a new print (or maybe this is the one you saw already) so am wondering if i should try again. though i still think, as i prob posted already, that 2001 might actually benefit from DCP.

The 2014 re-release was digital, wasn't it?

I first saw 2001 at the Unit 4 cinema in Wallasey in the summer of 1980, when it still had one large screen. I was 11 and I went with my older brother. He says I stared transfixed at the screen for a good minute after the intermission had started. I think it was first broadcast on British TV on New Year's Day 1982 or 1983. Oh, the arguments at school after the Xmas break - me defending it against the "boring and stupid" jibes.

A very interesting old article by Douglas Trumbull here - interesting despite the fact that I understood hardly any of it.

http://cinetropolis.net/vintage-article-by-douglas-trumbull-on-creating-special-effects-for-2001-a-space-odyssey/

This is playing in the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood Wednesday night. Not sure of the format.

think you just show up with a ticket

http://bhautikj.tumblr.com/post/145339946114/2001-a-space-odyssey-rendered-in-the-style-of

hello drukqs

impressive.

The Alien re-cut is funny.

new 70mm print in LA

http://americancinematheque.blogspot.de/2016/12/the-return-of-2001-space-odyssey-in-70mm.html

check out that bottom photo

He looks better than I expected!

http://i.imgur.com/rFM3SGV.jpg

you get a t shirt

https://drafthouse.com/event/2001-a-space-odyssey

Pretty good t shirt

Should be Kubrick/Kraftwerk one...

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0640/9215/products/kubrickxt_1024x1024.jpg

LA people:

http://www.curbed.com/2017/3/24/15051198/2001-space-odyssey-bedroom-installation-los-angeles

https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/10/monolith.jpg

http://bloomsmag.com/17-minutes-of-lost-2001-a-space-odyssey-footage-found/

*spit-take*

Warner Bros otm

I've been hearing about a 4K restoration so perhaps when that comes out...

these scenes are one of those tantalizing things that are bound to disappoint. they are scenes people saw at the first screening and gave vague descriptions about. i always wondered where the extra docking sequence was cut out from.

i am fine with them never adding the scenes back into the film, although if they get released there will be a fan edit.

An entire sequence of several shots in which Dave Bowman searches for the replacement antenna part in storage.

I don't know, guys. So ready to drop acid and watch this.

SPOILER: He eventually finds it.

Yeah, but wait until we see all the Predator ship equipment stored back there.

i need to see this and the cut ending from Phase IV pls

Phase IV lost ending is on YouTube

lol wrong URL there, meant to paste https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beLpsWaUDNk

When HAL is being deactivated the voice isn't simply slowed down; they used a device called the Eltro Mark II "Information Rate Changer" to achieve time compression/expansion and pitch shifting. Supposedly Douglas Rain's voice is slightly time stretched the whole way through.

There's a nice write-up by Wendy Carlos.

http://www.wendycarlos.com/other/Eltro-1967/index.html

That's super interesting to me thanks! I have obsessed for decades over the particular quality of Douglas Rain's voice in the film (my day job involves a lot of voice recording) and it's always stumped me why/how it sounded like it did, my best guess was some kind of unusual low pass filtering and compression combination that was a result of being stored on an optical format.

that's excellent.

This is still easily the greatest film ever made to me. I might upgrade to 4k whenever they release it on the format.

This is a rare example of everyone being right about something. And that is very interesting Noel thanks!

https://youtu.be/Hu64xbgprWY

1960 space documentary "Universe" narrated by Douglas Rain. He did other films and TV, but I can't find any clips on YouTube.

If you play it at half speed, it does sound like Hal being deactivated.

Douglas Rain is still alive at 89. I really hope they get Dullea and Lockwood to present the vfx Oscar this March (50th anniv), with a possible cameo from HAL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Rain

4K disc coming on May 8.

https://www.urbandaddy.com/articles/41836/a-forthcoming-book-details-the-making-of-2001-a-space-odyssey

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/cannes-christopher-nolan-50th-anniversary-2001-1202738280/

Premiere screening in DC 50 years ago today, I think.

Opened theatrically 2 days later in NYC, day of MLK's murder.

Nolan, who will be attending the festival for the first time, will also participate in a Cannes masterclass on May 13, during which he will discuss his filmography and his passion for Kubrick’s work.

Most interested in his discussion of the extent to which his filmography is in no way reflective of his passion for Kubrick's work.

I mean, I have a passion for sentences that aren't unwieldy but you'd never know it.

people often say that kubrick's work is cold and distant and you can def see those properties in nolan (in fact i recently went off on one in the dunkirk thread about how only nolan could make an emotionally inert movie about hundreds of thousands of men awaiting violent death)

but mostly i don't happen to share that feeling about kubrick's work - yeah, he's patient and surgically precise and has a super-distinctive eye for composition and nolan def aims at all three of those, with varying degrees of success

but there's no way nolan could make a movie with as clear a vision of human absurdity as dr strangelove or as sympathetic for a monster as a clockwork orange or the startling fusion of sardonic wit and outright horror as the first half of full metal jacket

kubrick understood how people work and nolan just... doesn't