a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

Recommended videos on the Cruz video includes Rachel Maddow pointing out that's not a machine gun, dude.

There's been no GOP party structure for years.

Good piece:

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/04/its_donald_trumps_party_now_jeb_just_lives_in_it_why_the_gop_loyalty_pledge_is_a_win_for_trump/

Trying to figure out the same thing we are: "I’d like to think the Hewitt interview, at least, will leave a mark, but I’ve lost my capacity to trust the laws of political gravity when it comes to Donald Trump."

laura ingraham losing her shit over trump being asked 'gotcha' questions is a lol

I have to believe that his hubris, stoked by suffering precisely nothing in the way of negative repercussions for any ridiculous thing he says or does, will be his downfall. He'll just keep pushing until something breaks. Like he'll finally cross the line by denying the holocaust or beating a guy to death at a press conference or something.

waiting for a video of a threesome with the Clintons

Going back to Sanders and drones for a second, my first reaction to that quote was "white liberals finally have a reason to be upset with Bernie Sanders"

*golf clap*

it is p amusing how Trump is staking out moderate/liberal positions (raising taxes, being ok w gay marriage, refusing to unequivocally destroy Planned Parenthood or the Iran nuclea deal) and not really losing any ground over it. wonder how long that will last.

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said he would visit Davis in jail next week and planned a rally to support her.

Chuckles really gunnin for a photo op here

it is p amusing how Trump is staking out moderate/liberal positions (raising taxes, being ok w gay marriage, refusing to unequivocally destroy Planned Parenthood or the Iran nuclea deal) and not really losing any ground over it. wonder how long that will last.

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 4, 2015 7:36 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kinda illustrates the appeal of the modern gop amirite

the modern gop

The Grand Old Angry Whites Party.

https://twitter.com/ruinedpicnic/status/637482075638075392

can't stop thinking about this deeply evocative tweet

Perfect.

i know it's an outlier, but trump beating all dems in a head to head poll is fuuuuucked up

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6

and it's September 2015.

feature story in Sunday Times revealed, as you might intuit, that Clinton is aiming above all to sweep the South on Feb 27-March 1 (which includes Super Tuesday).

Trump said that his five years at the New York Military Academy provided him with "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-military-service-213392#ixzz3lAFutSXw

oh my god what an asshole!

Going back to Sanders and drones for a second, my first reaction to that quote was "white liberals finally have a reason to be upset with Bernie Sanders"

Depending on what kinda white libs they are, there's also his hands-off posture on guns, and he seems to think the fight vs Islamic terror should be led by... the Saudis.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/27/foreign-policy-sanders-style-backing-saudi-intervention/

eh I get where Sanders' coming from there, which is a reductionist view that the shi'a/sunni rooted conflicts should just be fought directly by the powers with the most vested interest - ie Saudi Arabia and Iran.

In principle I sort of agree, why even be involved in this dumb sectarian bullshit, ISIS doesn't really pose a threat to the US, let them all kill each other

still the House of Saud was the prime sponsor of OBL and his ilk, no? if like Hal Holbrook u follow the money.

we're talking about now, not 15 years ago

Sanders is the person in the race whose positions most closely align with my personal philosophy, so his approach to certain things (guns, foreign policy things like that Counterpunch link, his utter lack of engagement with many of the BLM disruptions of his campaign and the entitlement that drips from the statements from him about that disengagement) makes me screwface that much more than it would coming from someone that I already disagree with 90% of the time (like, say, every Republican currently in the race).

I freely admit that there's a certain amount of cynical "devil-you-know" tied to my acceptance of Hillary's warts; I also think she's suffering from Romney's "anyone but the inevitable choice" malaise from the previous cycle. I'm looking forward to how they both do in debates and to see if Lessing's campaign progresses beyond the realm of thought experiment.

but Shakes, would they somehow be committed to making war on Wahabbists and related ideologues now?

they're against ISIS if that's what you're referring to

the funny thing is the combination of how much all these factions hate each other AND will shift allegiances at the drop of a hat

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2015/09/08/us/08firstdraft-trumpnixon/08firstdraft-trumpnixon-tmagArticle.jpg

well he also told his secretary that Rodham was "a true believer" ie Pink Lady II.

Sanders is 74 today, as i'm sure most of you have learned from your Junk folder

Wow, and today is the 80th anniversary of Huey Long getting shot.

ford pardoned nixon 41 years ago today

star trek premieres on nbc on this day in 1966

Phew, lot of anniversaries today. Ought to take care of us for the rest of the week, right?

in celebrity birthdays happy 92nd birthday to lyndon larouche

and the Siege of Leningrad began in '41

guess who has apologized for her email server?

what an Oprah Moment

please don't let trump win this fuck no

the only thing I can think is that he'd probably still be better than scott walker

win what, the nomination? long odds

pre-impeach!

http://abcnews.go.com/beta/Politics/hillary-clinton-private-email-mistake-im/story?id=33608970

i would bet anyone 5G that neither Trump nor Sanders will be nom's, if i was a gambler

I kind of do want Trump to win the GOP nomination tbh it would guarantee a loss and do an insane amount of damage to the party

Plus it would be a highly entertaining train wreck, don't forget that.

to extremely desperate people.

before I crow about the damage taht Trump will do to the GOP, I want to remind everyone the damage that Palin did to the GOP and Romney did to the GOP and George W. Bush did to the GOP. Then I want to remind Democrats that they suck at gaining control of state legislatures.

I don't give a fuck anymore about the damage done to the GOP -- I want to know what Democrats will do to take advantage of the damage, and as usual it's nothing.

Palin and Romney handed Obama easy victories so that's something

state legislatures are a different issue

(we've been pretty good about taking advantage of the local self-immolation of the GOP in California fwiw)

I have zero faith in a Clinton presidency beyond holding out hope that she will not automatically undo Obama's climate change executive orders, EPA rules etc.

i'd wonder too if trump succeeding w/ the base not despite but somewhat because his krugman approved economics might move some gop pols vaguely leftward on one front at least when they see the opportunity and market there. probably not - the fundraising base isn't there (the only way trump is able to pull it off is he's paying his own way), there's no racist but new deal friendly equivalent to club for growth and the kochs.