I have news for you - they can get even more dimwitted: http://gawker.com/dumbass-tennessee-judge-if-gays-can-get-married-no-on-1728447299
A local judge in Tennessee has denied a divorce to a man and woman on the grounds that the Supreme Court’s recent decision on same-sex marriage means only the Supreme Court can decide “what is not a marriage, or better stated, when a marriage is no longer a marriage.”Hamilton County Chancellor Jeffrey Atherton is a huge Antonin Scalia stan, and apparently agreed with Scalia’s dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges, where he argued that the justices were usurping states’ legislative power by recognizing gay couples’ right to marry.Now, Atherton argues, I guess us stupid Tennesseans will have to wait for the Supreme Court to tell us what “divorce” is.“The conclusion reached by this Court is that Tennesseans have been deemed by the U.S. Supreme Court to be incompetent to define and address such keystone/central institutions such as marriage, and, thereby, at minimum, contested divorce,” Atherton wrote.
Hamilton County Chancellor Jeffrey Atherton is a huge Antonin Scalia stan, and apparently agreed with Scalia’s dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges, where he argued that the justices were usurping states’ legislative power by recognizing gay couples’ right to marry.
Now, Atherton argues, I guess us stupid Tennesseans will have to wait for the Supreme Court to tell us what “divorce” is.
“The conclusion reached by this Court is that Tennesseans have been deemed by the U.S. Supreme Court to be incompetent to define and address such keystone/central institutions such as marriage, and, thereby, at minimum, contested divorce,” Atherton wrote.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
only incompetent person in this scenario is you, fuckface
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
that judge thinks his turds are truthbombs
― Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
why in the fuck did they throw this woman in jail argh so dumb
― goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
fine her. remove her from service. order her subordinates to take over her duties. something else besides a political martyrdom
there are going to be kim davis skits put on in megachurches for the next 25 years. thanks, idiot.
― goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
remove her from service
can't be done. although putting her in jail accomplishes this in practice
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
so she's County Clerk and not, like, a clerk for the county. i figured.
still. no jail! duh.
― goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Judge's reasoning is fining her will do no good because people are raising money to pay her fines for her.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
(Judge is Jim Bunning's kid btw)
I'm happy enough to see her in jail, considering what alternatives there were. imo, if the judge only fined her, her fines would be paid by fellow fanatics, regardless of how high he sets the fine, and the higher it was, the more it would serve the purpose of making her look persecuted. sending her to jail will feel a bit glamorous to her at first, with all the adulation she'll get, but the longer she stays in, the less glamor will cling to it and the more the reality will set in. and if others are tempted to follow her example, they will know the consequence of hopping onto the bandwagon is jail time.
― Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
btw, I'd bet that she's been getting a lot of encouragement from her lawyers to be in contempt of court, because the lawyers' fees are being paid by organizations with a strong interest in the publicity her case generates and those organizations are the real client, not Davis. she's just a useful fool, blinded by her delusion that her going to jail will somehow result in changing a Supreme Court ruling. and her lawyers know it's all a circus for the media and all she will get out of it is an inflated sense of her own importance and a stint in jail.
― Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
I was hoping the judge would have some words for her lawyers but I havent see anything.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
This is mentioned unthread, but one of the weirdest semi-related aspects of this case is that the Dubya-appointed federal judge who issued the court order is the son of Jim Bunning, All-Star Hall of Fame pitcher for the Tigers, Phillies, and Pirates(played with Al Kaline among many others, and pitched a perfect game).
Jim Bunning Sr retired from pro-ball and went into politics, eventually being elected as Congressman from KY. He held this seat until 2001, and his replacement? Rand Paul.
Pop culture is weird, and life can be dumber than fiction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bunning
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
whoever said she's "out-George Wallace-ing George Wallace" otm this is v civil rights era in terms of people openly defying established law and proudly martyring themselves. they won't win.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
if there's anything the state unreservedly will never back down on, it's the power of the state
i bet her sympathizers are excited she got arrested, more victimhood bullshit to spout on about and get excited and mad about
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
Your GOP presidential candidates, ladies and gents:
Ted Cruz: I Stand With Kim Davis
Huckabee: Why is Kim Davis in Jail and Hilary Isn't Durr Hurrr Hurrrrrrr
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
She's set financially for life.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link
I doubt it's a lifetime sinecure. Her value as a symbol of resistance will fade to nothing long before she dies, because the cause she's backing will fade away before too long. It will result in a rising tide of money over the next X weeks as the media circus continues.
― Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
her punishment shoulda been to serve as a stagehand for the touring version of La Cage Aux Folles for a year.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link
Have you seen her? She may not live very long.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah, it was kinda like looking upon the wreck of the Ella Fitzgerald
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:41 (nine years ago) link
Edmund...christ.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link
Edmund Christ, younger brother of Jesus, never amounted to much
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link
Don't underestimate a woman's longevity. Unless she's big smoker and boozer, the chances are good she'll hit at least 80, if not 90.
― Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link
i can't believe "wreck of the ella fitzgerald" is not a punk band or something
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 September 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link
It's a joke in Love and Rockets iirc
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:44 (nine years ago) link
Ms. Davis remained in jail on Friday, and her husband said Friday that his wife planned to stay “as long as it takes” until a law was passed that gave county clerks like her the option not to issue marriage licenses that violated their religious convictions.
“She has done her job,” he said. “Just because five Supreme Court judges make a ruling, it’s not a law.”
go back to jr. high civics class, do not pass go
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
wow
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
her 4th husband btw
― usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
Collect them all!
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
only God makes laws, iirc
― sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/kim-davis-fourth-husband-says-clerk-wont-resign-tell-judge-bunning-hes-a-butt/
― polyphonic, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
planned to stay “as long as it takes” until a law was passed that gave county clerks like her the option not to issue marriage licenses
She has obviously not paid attention to how long it takes to pass a law, even under the best circumstances.
― Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
that law has no hope of passage or being upheld, it's so sad how people can't follow basic legal logic
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
like, Scalia is right - if your beliefs interfere with doing your job, you shouldn't have that job. it's not your right to have that job.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
maybe she's hoping Nino will dress as the Dark Nought and spring her.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/kimdavis917/status/640312688539623424
is this real
― j., Sunday, 6 September 2015 02:47 (nine years ago) link
certainly looks real. no hint of irony.
― Aimless, Sunday, 6 September 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
that Twitter account has to be fake
― (extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Sunday, 6 September 2015 05:38 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's fake, go ahead and look up the bible verses she mentions
― (extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Sunday, 6 September 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/09/08/judge-orders-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-released-from-jail/
Bunning handled this p cleverly imo - basically demoted her
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
I'm curious what kinda tone the rally will take; will they soldier on blindly as persecution or do this as victory? Or both?
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
how dare the court prevent Kim Davis from not doing her job
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
queers are gettin married in the county, can't see how they can spin that as a victory
CNN is/watch broadcasting this shit live
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Is/was, rather
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
Not a victory for them but they are spinning it that way.
Her original goal was not to let marriage certificates leave her office because she had to rubber stamp them, which she viewed as participation. So her clerks couldn't either...RFRA case law shit all over that.
Now they have changed it to a rubber stamp that doesn't bear her name or post, just the office, and many of the ones signed when she was in jail had her place left blank.
and she and her lawyer are saying these are null and void without her stamp of approval. It has fuck all to do with her personal beliefs - she just wants to stop anybody gay from getting married in her building.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
problem is it's not "her" building
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link