Hatred of Itunes

that help page shows you how to do the shit you don't know how to do, but it sounds like you just want to throw a public tantrum or something so farewell, have a blessed day

lol
i'm pointing out stuff that is bad about about the interface etc. stuff that a help page won't fix you fucking maroon

sorry, language

i think you're just not very good at using computers. it's ok ;-)

Right now I'm listening to Bee Thousand and each track is playing twice in a row because I have two copies of Bee Thousand. I don't really mind because this album is great but I decided to try to change to just one album. This is proving to be difficult. Actually, nope it's impossible. I just have to delete one of the albums off of itunes I guess.

wooooooosh

― The Once-ler, Tuesday, September 1, 2015 7:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Unless you have a super huge number of songs on there, can't you sort by date added and delete one of them? Unless you downloaded them at the EXACT same time?

uncheck one of them

'date modified' worked after I found out had to add it to the column categories. but really that was a stupid issue to pick on. I think I got carried away by all the other legitimate issues, including the ones I was having from just having to put up with it.

itunes never fails to irk me. kind of like how windows 8 had me face-palming before I added a 'start is back' app. there are still other windows 8 things that bug me though

if you're in artist mode and you choose "sort albums by year, descending", and you play a specific track on an album, it'll play the album backwards (play track 5, next will be 4, then 3 ...)

cool

fucking piece of shit ipod touch killed itself because I hadn't updated to iOS 9. Updated and it tried to install my entire app library on the fucking thing, plus turn on iMessage and News, and all the other shit. All technology is shit

Seriously every device in the modern world drives me into apoplectic rage any time I have to commit an act of maintenance - and about 10% of the time just when I'm trying to use it for its intended purpose. How did we get here?

good god iTunes is a mess if you want it to handle a library of any reasonable size.

Inexplicably, you cannot go "back" from one view to another, which is a total fucking nightmare if you are searching for anything and want to return to where you were.

If you make a change in an info file while in My Music, it will reset your place back to the beginning of the alphabet.

It's buggy as shit when syncing over wifi.

It's dog slow with tens of thousands of files.

Try deleting a song from your library while in Playlist view and watch the system drag to a crawl.

You have to use Doug's iTunes Scripts to get any meaningful batch processing.

Can't meaningfully display lyrics without a 3rd party. Finding lyrics requires a third party, too.

Still won't play FLAC.

I've actually come around to iTunes, I agree the useful functionality isn't always easy to find at first but once you get to know where to get all the functionality it's incredibly powerful. It's one of the few libraries that works correctly with compilations too, and one of the very few that handles a 100.000+ library without slowing down to a crawl.

Anybody know a way to always show the "track number" column by default when creating a new playlist?

It does with me - playlists seem to 'inherit' the columns from the general Music view.

I wish you could edit Smart Playlists better.

I'll do this thing where I'll come up with some combination like "Name Must Have 'Sexy'" and get the list. However, there will be one or two songs in that Smart list that I don't want. So instead of just being able to delete them from the list - like you can in a regular list or even on Spotify - I have to actually select the other 99 songs and then "Create a Playlist from Selection".

Not that I really have 100 songs with sexy in the title. Some of them are sexxy.

You could do that - make a playlist called "Shit Songs", move those two songs in there (and others you want to be excluded from other playlists), and add the line "does not contain songs from playlist Shit Songs" in your smart playlists.

Ha, yeah that would work.

Still, creating a playlist you don't even want in order to delete songs from one that you do....

^ that used to be called a kludge

Seriously every device in the modern world drives me into apoplectic rage any time I have to commit an act of maintenance - and about 10% of the time just when I'm trying to use it for its intended purpose. How did we get here?

Ditto. I seriously need to lo-fi-ify my life because everything new sucks. My iPod Classic is pretty much the only one of my varied electronic devices that doesn't require multiple hours of upkeep. Everything else is about to get dropkicked into a well.

On topic, though: my gf was trying to make a playlist in my iTunes this weekend and, after dealing with the extended freeze-ups every couple of minutes, I think she finally understands what all of the swearing is about.

If you make a change in an info file while in My Music, it will reset your place back to the beginning of the alphabet.

the resetting/the strange, suddenly shitty memory for what you were just doing is what's really killing me on the later updates of this thing

and i never really complained about itunes before!

I've found that if I edit track tags, add new files, delete files, etc while in the main My Music view iTunes as a whole just freezes up for a couple of minutes since upgrading to the latest version. Doesn't happen if I make the changes within a playlist, or when I've searched for a specific artist/title, minimising the files on display. Frustrating if I forget. 6 years of playlists plus iDevices leave me reluctant to move away from iTunes, plus I'm happy enough with the interface in general.

My >10 years worth of playlists is what keeps me shackled to this thing. Still, I had to revert to an older version that I never update in order to keep from losing my mind completely. Did they ever reinstate the users' ability to have more than one playlist open at a time? Someone should've gone to jail for that decision.

you can save playlists as files and import them with whatever new mp3 player you use

sorta offtopic and i mentioned elsewhere, but seriously, get Cesium for your iDevice. You can end the pain on iOS at least.

I've found that if I edit track tags, add new files, delete files, etc while in the main My Music view iTunes as a whole just freezes up for a couple of minutes since upgrading to the latest version. Doesn't happen if I make the changes within a playlist, or when I've searched for a specific artist/title, minimising the files on display. Frustrating if I forget. 6 years of playlists plus iDevices leave me reluctant to move away from iTunes, plus I'm happy enough with the interface in general.

I'd love to leave iTunes and would in a second if there was a great alternative but there's not. And yes, iTunes is ultimately pretty powerful and great but like Word it is now dragged down by uselessness (the whole multimedia and device management functionality) which adds to the complexity and creates nasty legacy issues.

In certain views, iTunes scrolls tens of thousands of files well but in other views it sputters along. But given Apple's drive to streaming, I do not think these issues will improve until I can roll my own streaming service.

I've actually been OK with iTunes lately. It's the airplay feature that drives me nuts. So temperamental, constantly dropping the signal.

thx lukas

I've been running into some really irritating shit- I have a large library, so of course I want to manage the stuff on my iphone manually, just dragging and dropping what I want (or, now that they've dropped the sidebar by default and I would have to keep turning it on every time I started itunes because it doesn't remember that setting, RGH, doing a group-select->right click->add to playlist->my iphone). Now they've added this fucking stupid thing where purchased music on my phone has both "delete" and "remove download" options if I'm managing it directly from the phone's Music app, and as far as I can tell, the difference is "remove download" takes it off the device (but still leaves a library entry for it on the phone's Music app because haha fuck you) and "delete" apparently deletes it FROM YOUR ITUNES LIBRARY. Like, all synced devices, and hides it in your itunes store account. Who wants that? Who thought that was a good idea?

I'm also finding that if I browse my iphone's library while it's connected via USB to itunes on my PC and delete stuff to make room for new music, about half the time it will delete it from that view- meaning I can't see it on my PC's itunes while the phone is connected- but the files will still be on the phone.

JESUS CHRIST APPLE GET YOUR/MY SHIT TOGETHER

Maybe the reason I'm not running into problems is that I don't have an iPhone and I'm never syncing stuff? Hmm ...

intelligently syncing media across multiple devices with vastly different storage capacities and use cases is admittedly difficult but apple has been hopeless at it (just try disentangling the photo sync options available for instance)

Syncing generally isn't a problem for me since I'm only syncing an iPod Classic via USB. I create On The Go playlists during the day as necessary and update stuff when I get home.

i get that it's difficult to create software that will sync media across multiple platforms/devices. i don't get why it keeps getting worse with every new version of itunes. or why itunes' most basic function (sorting/playing media) keeps getting more cumbersome and terrible to look at.

All of Apple's software has been steadily getting uglier, more bloated, more cumbersome and less useful, especially iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie. Waiting for them to introduce a talking paperclip that walks you through everything.

Photos is an improvement over iPhoto, for sure.

Scotch-taping a polaroid picture to your computer monitor would've been an improvement over iPhoto.

I'm getting a new computer today, looking forward to leaping up several generations of tech and software immediately, after the hassle of transferring everything over.

I love that feeling. Also the feeling of having a clean install

Pp, true true

The more Apple follows Google's horrible eyesore of a UX/UI, the worse it becomes. And iTunes is no different.

And yo Tracer, syncing media across multiple platforms (let alone dealing with all the charming legacy issues) is no easy trick but it's something Apple's been (trying) doing since the iPod. Am kind of expecting it to really just work at some point.

yes cosine

I guess we're supposed to sit back and assume that STREAMING WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING.

yep

files on your own computer are so 2011

I finally abandoned iTunes and having files on my computer. Since I haven't had a real desktop in years, the hard drives have too small for my iTunes library, so I use Spotify and then records when I really want to listen to music.

I miss having some not-officially-released tracks that were in my library but Spotify handles 99% of it without issue.

you are freaking me out

i couldn't see an album in the Music app on my iPhone that i knew i had, had to use search to find it

album displays fine in cesium - that was crashing for a while but seems fixed, so goodbye Music

had to use apple music again today and the UI is just spectacularly, hallucinatorily bad, it is crazy

even if it were the nutz though, the fact that it forgets what what point you were in the song you were listening to (like, ahem dj mixes), if it has to unload itself from your iphone's memory, is unforgiveable

iTunes' flakiness had been getting so bad for me that last night I deleted all playlists, music, everything and reimported my files. I hadn't reset my iTunes library in close to 10 years so who knows what the library files were looking like.

So much better now!

Not being able to edit stream URLs in the info box anymore really pisses me off. My WFMU stream's playcount was at 4500+ until they changed the stream address the other day.