a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

Trump could really use some Jr. Woodchucks to keep him in line

He once declared himself king of his money bin. It did not go well:
http://neamar.fr/Res/DUCK/DUCK/His%20Majesty%20McDuck_cover.jpg

Those Beagle Boys. Or Los Beagles, as they're called where they're from.

Imagine entering a rally while "Ducktails" plays on the loudspeakers. That's probably what it's like to be inside Trump's head. ha!

that should be cheaper

is king scrooge wearing fur trim spats?

They got the "rewrite history" part down.

http://home4.swipnet.se/%7Ew-47991/DonRosa/pics/hmmcd.gif

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-28/clinton-camp-saying-it-already-secured-one-fifth-the-delegates-needed-for-nomination

fuckin superdelegates

took this link from a friend of a facebook friend who prefaced it with 'ok fine this is why i'm voting sanders and not clinton'

^deMOCKracy

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/joe-biden-and-the-democratic-vacuum/402694/

A+ lead photo

Superdelegates were Hillary's firewall in 2008, too.

http://www.alternet.org/story/76664/hillary_clinton's_superdelegate_'firewall'

https://dellioandwoods.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/super.jpg

Actually Clinton won the popular vote in the primary in 2008, but lost on delegates. She lost pledged delegates 51-49 % but then lost superdelegates 66-34.

I've been thinking, why is there no younger democrats in the field? Except O'Malley. But even with everyone figuring they have no chance against Hilary, wouldn't it be smart for a younger generation to make a name for themselves in preparation for the election in 4-8-12 years? Or is it the lack of new democratic governors the last few elections?

A young up-and-coming democrat running against Hillary in 2016 would risk making some very powerful enemies. The Clintons aren't necessarily more vindictive than other politicians, but this is Hillary's final shot and they won't scruple at using all the power at their command to win this election. They do not view ANY opposition kindly and regardless of the outcome they would never ever forget you tried to stand in her way.

Yeah, I mean look at Barack Obama, where is that guy now

You may recall Obama placated HRC by nominating her as Secretary of State, which was the highest prestige office he could have offered (assuming Defense was off limits to her). Basically, he kept her chances alive for 2016. That was rather a big favor.

(xpost) I was going to say the same thing--unless you win. But if you miscalculate, you're probably not doing yourself any favors.

The Corleone Family don't even have that kind of muscle anymore. The Godfather's sick, right? You're getting chased out of New York by Barzini and the other families. What do you think is going on here? I talked to Barzini--I can make a deal with him, and still keep my hotel!

http://bobleesays.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/07/godfather43.jpg

I'm not sure that makes sense. Does the Clinton's really have more power than the Bush'es? And people are running against Jeb left and right, and ran against Bush. The guy who became runner-up after W got the next nomination. The Clinton's would have to be more than usually vindictive to frighten off a hypothetical strong democratic field.

I think we all can agree the Clintons are rubbish. We don't have to blame everything on their evilness.

Yes the clintons have more power than the bushes. For one thing, one of them was in national office recently.

Also bill was never considered a national disgrace by a majority of the country.

Uhh

Well half isn't a majority I guess

Bill's approval ratings were always strong. They were actually higher in his 2nd term (and went up during/after impeachment)

Whereas by the time dubya was done he was persona non grata by a wide margin

Well the Bushes have historically been a political dynasty and at this point the Clintons are just two old people. When it comes to getting Mo Greened I'd be much more afraid, in general, of the family that's been close to the center of political power in the US for 70 years.

Maybe no other Democrat really feels like being president.

the talents required to win the presidency are weird and rare

Bernie within margin of error in Iowa, 37-30

you can kinda see why clinton would push on, but i dunno, joe's got a sweet deal, big office, nice retirement plan, going out on top, who is 72 and looks at THAT job and is like, yeah, let's do that and retire at 80 instead

Hillary should tap Biden for the VP spot. he could just chill where he's at.

Are you guys not following how JEB! is doing? Bushes are a spent dynasty, their support is shallow and isolated, they are in no position to whack anybody, none of them are in office, they have no voter base

Also at this point all they have is the name. They have not bred a new generation of winners.

A fitting end (hopefully) for a truly vile family.

JENA! '24

Never say die!

Don't really get how Clinton's holding superdelegates matters.

A young up-and-coming democrat running against Hillary in 2016 would risk making some very powerful enemies. The Clintons aren't necessarily more vindictive than other politicians, but this is Hillary's final shot and they won't scruple at using all the power at their command to win this election. They do not view ANY opposition kindly and regardless of the outcome they would never ever forget you tried to stand in her way.

Not even Lucianne Goldberg was this scared.

JENA! '24

Never say die!
--Οὖτις

Actually I think the other daughter is a do gooder so BAR!

Also at this point all they have is the name. They have not bred a new generation of winners.

When Dubya was in office, wasn't there a 20-year old nephew who was supposed to be the next generation?

This guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Bush

Named after Prescott Bush, who is someone I would not want to be named after.

In May 2015, as Texas land commissioner, Bush organized fundraising for future development of the San Antonio historic site, The Alamo.[39][40] British singer Phil Collins donated various Alamo-related artifacts to the State of Texas with the stipulation that the State of Texas build a facility to hold the artifacts within a seven-year period.[40]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-president-2016-fundraisers-problems-213156

Three top Jeb Bush fundraisers abruptly parted ways with his presidential campaign on Friday, amid internal personality conflicts and questions about the strength of his candidacy, POLITICO has learned.

There are different versions of what transpired. The Florida-based fundraising consultants — Kris Money, Trey McCarley, and Debbie Aleksander — have said that they voluntarily quit the campaign and were still working with Bush's super PAC, Right to Rise Super PAC. Others said the three, who worked under the same contract, were let go because they were no longer needed for the current phase of the campaign.

...

Frontrunner Donald Trump seized on the POLITICO report Saturday morning and took a shot at his rival on Twitter: “Wow, Jeb Bush just lost three of his top fundraisers - they quit!”

Not even Lucianne Goldberg was this scared.

She had different patrons and protectors than a democratic presidential aspirant is likely to rely on for furthering their career.

Struggling to think of dem poltical opponents destroyed by the clintons tbh

vince foster

reminds me i saw clint eastwood's absolute power last night and the hillary proxy in that was amazingly vicious (judy davis played her), there's a moment where a secret service officer tells her he'd like to rip her throat out and it's clearly a fist pumping moment. i'm guessing it was written already but there's an interesting piece to be written about clinton proxies in 90s movies (i think the american president came out the same year)(absolute power easily better but i'm pretty fond of eastwood movies where he's not playing to critics).

Presidential campaigns are not conducted with kid gloves. If you play to win you make enemies not just of your opponent, but of their most ardent and committed supporters. Hillary and Bill have deep, strong connections to a lot of the big money people who back democratic campaigns and they have a lot of chits they could call in if necessary. Probably many more than GW Bush would command in his party.

Politicians are calculating. They don't need the threat of utter destruction to be dissuaded from taking on the Clintons this year. They need only calculate the risks against the likely odds of winning and decide they aren't worth it, especially if they are young enough to wait for 2020 or 2024. Obama played a long shot and it came in for him. He's exceptional that way. You kind of have to be to become the first black president.

Are you guys not following how JEB! is doing? Bushes are a spent dynasty, their support is shallow and isolated, they are in no position to whack anybody, none of them are in office, they have no voter base

― Οὖτις, Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:22 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also at this point all they have is the name. They have not bred a new generation of winners.

― Οὖτις, Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:24 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

All they had in 1963 was a CIA dude who was running a curiously named oil company.

Jeb is still the favorite to win the nomination on the sportsbooks. Does intrade still exist?

Prescott was a force in the GOP prior to '63

Also planned parenthood lol