the new USA show MR. ROBOT: the rise of Rami Malek and the inexplicable solidness of Christian Slater

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I want to defend the extreme framing a) because it's one of the only bits of visual flair that doesn't feel ripped off from kubrick or fincher and b) it can reasonably be interpreted as a visual manifestation of Elliot's inability to engage with people earnestly

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

that's true, and i like them. like i said i'm a sucker for that yes earnest 90s indie vibe.

slothrop i don't have any problem with characters being earnest with each other. but the show is pretty short on the sort of humor i like, which i've described upthread - teasing, basically, taking down a peg - either by the characters, or the script, or the director. but i get that it's sort of an adolescent angsty comic book and have made my peace with that. i'm over it! i like the show! i just get frustrated with it, like i would with some sullen teen.

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

i find the show quite funny sometimes.

i was kinda wondering if anyone's brought up the likelihood that the unlikely saga of shayla and the drug dealer and his treacherous brother are ALSO all in Elliott's head? Like if we're gonna get a number of B/C plots with a more than passing resemblance to remakes of 90's film that may or may not actually be real but are meant to enact elliott's internal psychodrama? to trump the prior week's revelation with the bombshell that tyrell and his 50 shades of american psycho story are further fever dream would take massive cojones.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

someone mentioned that possibility on a grantland podcast - 90s movies he saw w his dad that are manifesting themselves in his head. I do think shayla and the dealer were real tho, same with tyrell

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

xps tracer I do see where you're coming from more or less, I may legit be slightly too sympathetic to attitudes typically held by sullen teens (I was one/kinda am one at heart still in my late 20s lol)

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link

xp, they certainly baited the hook for that theory with dad taking him to see pulp fiction, yes.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link

that would be extra super dumb/annoying esp since we've had scenes of his co-workers consoling him for his loss etc

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link

well is the sequence of dad and sis talking at the bar meant to be in elliott's head? or was he acting the role of mr. robot then? I don't really wanna go back and second guess this show too much as it might not take scrutiny well and i'm enjoying it as is.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

Mr. Robot ‏@whoismrrobot 42s42 seconds ago
The previously filmed season finale of Mr. Robot contains a graphic scene similar in nature to today’s tragic events in Virginia.

Mr. Robot ‏@whoismrrobot 1m1 minute ago
Out of respect to the victims, their families and colleagues, and our viewers, we are postponing tonight’s episode.

Mr. Robot ‏@whoismrrobot 51s52 seconds ago
Our thoughts go out to all those affected during this difficult time.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

critics who've seen it all say it's the right call to delay it a week, i will take their word for it

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

whoa that's fucked up

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

Ouch.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah if they think its best to delay it then i'm glad they're delaying it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link

That's a shame tragedy becomes an unintentional plot spoiler?
&just when I got my full size tv back.
Well, will look forward to next week.

Stevolende, Thursday, 27 August 2015 07:56 (eight years ago) link

Ppl on my FB feed complaining as if the murder of 2 people is such an inconvenience. It'll be on next week ffs.

tayto fan (Michael B), Thursday, 27 August 2015 10:47 (eight years ago) link

the principal actor played PSH's son-in-law in The Master, right?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 August 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link

Started watching this show last nite. The missus read some blog saying it was like a mash-up of Fight Club, Matrix, Taxi Driver and American Psycho. Having watched the first episode, would have to add Peep Show to that list - couldn't help hearing the internal monologue in the voice of Mark Corrigan, cf the episode where Mark hacks into Sophie's email.

Stevie T, Thursday, 27 August 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link

the principal actor played PSH's son-in-law in The Master, right?

That's him. Mostly people seem to know him from The Pacific (still unseen by me)

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 August 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

No comments on the finale?

Much of it was kinda meh and wheel-spinny compared to much of what came before. That one scene, though. Jesus. Totally understand why they pushed it back a week. Not to spoilerize, but that was maybe the most graphic depiction of that particular act I've ever seen outside of the infamously-filmed real-life version of same.

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

i dropped this after the roof murder. nothing anybody did was making sense anymore. i feel like the writers were just like "oh this would be crazy" and wrote it.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

this season is basically the first act of the original script sam esmail wrote for mr. robot when he wanted to do it as a movie, just with a lot of additions. the general skeleton of the whole overarching story was and is planned - like it or not, these arent seat-of-pants writing decisions a la the latter seasons of LOST

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

finale was fucking great precisely because it wasnt a big-bang thing full of more #tweests and watercooler shock moments, it centers around how these earth-shaking events are dealt with as traumatic bruises on the main characters, which has been the point of the series all along imo

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

just started watching
have to say, the music choice is still lovable. "world destruction"!

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

I feel like I JUST heard "World Destruction" on another series this year?

Anyway I liked how truly disorienting and weirdly paced the finale was, skipping over the actual hack the whole season was theoretically building towards, never showing us Wellick, completely stranding Angela at Ecorp. Loved the scene w/ Elliot and Wellick's wife and baby.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah! "I feel like she can hear us?"

B.D. Wong is the best

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

for a moment there the times square set looked kinda hokey and when slater started in with "well whats REAL" i worried for half a second they were gonna go with 'actually this is all a tv show'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 05:28 (eight years ago) link

lol yes I had a similar thought

there were definitely some cornball elements but I'm willing to give the show some room 'cause it's out on a wild limb so often

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 05:31 (eight years ago) link

Overall I think the story is fine but not exceptional -- a fairly smart rewiring of Fight Club and V for Vengeance, with a big dollop of William Gibson thrown in. What makes it for me is the production, filmmaking and casting. It has its own distinct vibe and has sustained it well.

I get more Anonymous-tinged crap than V for Vendetta, although fsociety is an actual meeting group

It was kind of late when I watched, but that was BD Wong in the last scene, right? Meaning the Chinese darknet group is working multiple sides

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

yep that is whiter0se

slothroprhymes, Friday, 4 September 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

using BD wong in that role is another 90s film reference, to cronenberg's m. butterfly

slothroprhymes, Friday, 4 September 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

why DID times square look so hokey

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

because it was a pretty funny green screen composite

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

also because times square is hokey irl

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

well and like

*obvious tight shot of 20 people with signs implying large crowd* was dumb as hell

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

oh also that One Scene was unexpectedly graphic dang

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the individual in question suddenly becoming more calm in his affect was a major "uh oh" and having a character you can relate to noticing that while everyone else in the room is too busy to pay attention....

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

also I am kind of amazed in 2015 we get that with no cutaway

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

Stuff that gets a pass on TV (even network TV) in 2015 would've earned a movie a hard R 20-30 years ago.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

who am I kidding, I watch and love Hannibal and there's worse stuff there on the reg

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

Stuff that gets a pass on TV (even network TV) in 2015 would've earned a movie a hard R 20-30 years ago.

Yeah, but that was during crackdown times. You would be amazed what got into G- and PG-rated movies in the 70s.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

I had a dark lol @ them apparently exploiting the air delay to ADR in that line about the Ashley Madison hack

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

I was impressed they got the Ashley Madison ref in there

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

I assumed that was what happened, unless they'd just filmed the episode sometime in the past week.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

just a quick dub prob

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 4 September 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

ya that was p good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

this didn't really stick the landing and the final ep was mostly a lot of loose ends waggled and some new ones added
all in all it felt like an ad for season two
i liked this show a lot but it's not hannibal / americans level just yet. very very good first season, hope they can keep the ball rolling now.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

all in all it felt like an ad for season two

yeah the knock at the door smashcut felt like a frustrating copout

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

also uh is it fair to call the wong scene a "post-credits" scene on tv, that seems weird

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Does anybody else worry that this show is gonna have the steepest Season 1-to-Season 2 dropoff in quality since Homeland?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link


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