2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

Ferraro also did a big 'look here sonny don't antagonize me' thing about Obama, reckoning she could 'help' him if he becomes the candidate. UGH.

Let's speculate on Ferraro's chances of becoming HRC's veep nominee.

they're equally vile, c'mon.

xp

haha alfred do you think there's even a 10% chance? cuz that would be interesting

clinton/ferarro 08 theme song?

boogie on reggae woman

don't stand so close to me

Ferraro could debate McCain, it'd be like analyzing On Golden Pond

sucka nigga

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baba wawa want to know: wewe the wemarks made by gewaldine fewawwo wacist?

wol

hahaha

Ferarro's off the Clinton finance committee, apparently of her own will and not asked to resign by campaign officials (yeah, sure).

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/ferraro-quits-clinton-post/

Geraldine's got some bitchin' hair.

She's been fired because she's a woman.

GF was an obama plant!

I know Tracer won't agree, but I find Shril's "I have no reason to think he's a Muslim" far more vile than GF's ranting.

-- Dr Morbius

maybe not far more, but more nonetheless

lol

Not sure this ad is so "hip," but it's certainly true that HRC's "Choir Moment" was tremendously lame.

WHOA

Geraldine Ferraro on NBC now, totally batshit.

She implied that Obama's people did it.

"If anything, Obama's playing the race card."

hahaha

yeah he's playing the race card by BEING BLACK

HOW DARE HE

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from yglesias' blog

My outrage doesn't stem so much from Clinton's constant reminders of Obama's race, but rather Clinton's subtle reminders of how black voters don't matter.

By suggesting that Obama wouldn't be where he is today without the "black vote" presupposes that there's something wrong with those votes going to Obama. Meaning..."It's just those black people that are voting him."

If Ferraro and the Clinton campaign don't understand why this is insulting, then there's nothing we can do to enlighten them.

Posted by AKBY | March 12, 2008 3:54 PM

otm

Fundraisers were given a presentation on Florida by Senator Bill Nelson, and one on Michigan by Senator Debbie Stabenow, and senior Hillary adviser Harold Ickes walked listeners through the challenges ahead. The presentations had a tone of optimism tempered by realism, the fundraiser said, adding that Ickes didn't try to persuade his listeners that she would be able to catch up with Obama in pledged delegates.

Rather, the clear message emerging from the presentations was that Hillary's success depends on the campaign's ability to persuade the super-delegates that they should be considering three "data points," as this fundraiser puts it, in considering whom to back: The pledged delegate count, the popular vote, and the specific states won by each candidate.

pledged delegate count - everyone seems to agree she can't catch up
popular vote - obama winning (after mississippi he's even winning if you throw in michigan on hillary's side)
specific states won - subjective

so ... comes down to florida and michigan I guess? what is their strategy really?

by "subjective" I mean that hrc's "I won the important states" spin argument seems unlikely to sway a superdel's vote if that's the only one of your OWN 3 CRITERIA that you have going for you

I can't stand that argument. It makes no sense. Who cares if she won New York and California? It's not like they're going to go to McCain in November anyway.

I don't know if this posted yet, but here's a bit that the dude at Raving Black Lunatic linked to, talking about the actual ratings increases for the networks for february.

In other words, pushing the narrative has the expected financial results.

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/pageoneplus/corrections.html

Corrections

An article on Monday about an offer by two supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton to pay for restaging the Florida and Michigan primaries misstated the current standing of the Democratic presidential race. Senator Barack Obama has more delegates and has received more popular votes than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. They are not in a “virtual tie.”

lol

yea wtf @ that

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OH NOES what did Kermit do?

also, WTF at going Right Left Left Right in their caption instead of L-R L-R

Ha. Apparently goons were responsible for godhatesobama.com. (the site has since been expanded)

His core beleifs, eh? Oh well. At least it all still links to the real Obama site and some lemonpartytubgirlonecupgoatse thing.

The man from Olber talks about Hillary's silence re: Ferraro

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXBXD2zizIY

Non-YouTube link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23601041/

Nice work Olberfella.

"I'm sorry I said it" vs. "I'm sorry I got caught" : Hillary apologizes for offending minorities.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080313/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_s_apologies

Worse still: Sorry for associating Obama & Jackson by mentioning them in the same sentence a couple of times? Hillaryous.

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http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/bt26647.htm

lol!

I really can't stand Olbermann's style. I so much prefer someone who can calmly dissect an issue with an awesome vocabulary over this blustering hyper-emotional personalized rant thing he has going on. Every time he says something like, "YOU, Mister President!" I cringe.

The special comment used to only happen 2 or 3 times a year, at most, when Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld would do something absolutely appalling. Now he whips them out 1 or 2 times a month, usually over something that no one will remember in a couple weeks. I guess someone's got his ear and they're telling him the public eats it up.

Has anyone checked the sales of his book lately?

Seriously y'all, I used to love MSNBC the most of all the cable news outlets, but since late last year both Matthews and Olbermann have been almost insufferable.

usually over something that no one will remember in a couple weeks.

That says more about the number of appalling things they do than about him exaggerating, IMHO.

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...sigh

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you know what, those just aren't going to show up, are they.