The Golden age of Internet comes to a close?

Cactus! I still listen to their podcast on occasion.

I have thought many times about rushomancy's long post on the "Slavery in the United States" Wikipedia article. Super super OTM. Not to say I know exactly how you could fix Wikipedia, but it's super useful as an illustration of how the current editing process/population gives rise to stuff that looks NPOV but turns out to be either noxiously biased or just totally incoherent if you actually think about all the inclusions and exclusions taken together.

Using Wikipedia as anything other than a starting point for further research/inquiry has always been problematic at the very least.

which sites do you use besides ilxor? I can't find a single online blog/magazine/newspaper that holds my attention

facebook

i have become an email newsletter kind of guy

l-r: tracer, email newsletter editors

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websites are over

always feel like I'm wasting time when I check fb

email newsletters sound interesting, any recommendations?

depends on what you're into! for news i get beat the press (though he's just now gone on vacation). click on the envelope icon here: http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/

and stephen bush's newsletter: https://www.newstatesman.com/staggers-morning-call

a lot of blogs have a newsletter option these days

cosign on staggers

cool, thanks!

websites are over

shut up brad this is stupid you're stupid websites are FOREVER websites RULE

they rule HARD

It's strange that so many sites I used to read 10, 15 or 20 years ago are still around, but usually in an unreadable form

RSS feed reading all the way!

which sites do you use besides ilxor? I can't find a single online blog/magazine/newspaper that holds my attention

― niels

so are you fishing for porn recommendations or what

seriously, though, just the Digital Antiquarian and my youtube subscriptions. the Digital Antiquarian RULES.

the golden age of the internet was Google Reader

Perfect Sound Forever is one I usually read it all when it publishes each month for seemingly forever.

RSS feed reading all the way!

the golden age of the internet was Google Reader

rss was the greatest internet thing that ever happened

i don't even understand why it has died -- i have subscribed to yr feed, i am interested in yr content, just fucking tell me what's new and i'll fucking click on it

Pocket!

pocket is good. it is not a replacement for rss

Pocket and Longform have replaced magazines for my lunch reading since phones got big enough to be comfortably readable.

Was thinking recently it would be nice to see a resurgence of personal websites/blogging that aren't Tumblr/Twitter micro-blogging and not attempts to monetize cooking or whatever.

"podcasting" the elephant in the room here no

I don't have the patience to listen to podcasts, but probably there's a move from reading to listening these years bcz smartphones

rss was the greatest internet thing that ever happened

i don't even understand why it has died

it... didn't? I never noticed any decline at least, just about every site still has feeds to subscribe to like they had a decade ago

Feedly+Reeder still works really well

ffs podcasts suck ass

i don't want to be mean and i know radio has existed forever and that they're useful for ppl who work deadening office jobs or commute a lot but when some people on here post about the 7 or 8 podcasts they listen to weekly i'm like, fuck that's depressing, listening to clucking smug men talk over each other for like 18 hours a week

I don't listen to any podcasts that even remotely fit that description, and I listen to quite a lot of podcasts

Yeah, you’re kind of off-base there. Smug, chuckling men are the morning drive-in DJs of the podcast world.

there are a LOT of them tbf

sorry sorry i don't want to be mean, and i actually even know the feeling of liking and anticipating the next episode of a pod; forget i said anything. but just, if podcasts are 'the good thing on the internet' in 2017 we're fucked

reading on the internet has just become so basically shitty most of the time, autoplaying videos, intrusive ads, anti-ad-blocker blockers, the uh.. writing itself.. podcasts feel relatively uncluttered and handleable somehow

well you can get people to subscribe, can't you

yes! almost as if it were an...... rss feed!

flopson’s characterization isn’t at all unfair. maron, simmons, fucking barstool - those are all wildly popular. plus all the godawful comedians out there. i also kind of hate the light smirkiness of a lot of big time podcast network shows, especially when i’m interests in the meat of their content - that sort of uneasy “ha ha don’t want to appear too SERIOUS because it would muss my carefully curated brooklyn aesthetic” just falls so flat

ta for the nudge re feedreader ...
welcome back rss feeds.
i loved google reader, and this seems to do everything i need.
now to go find my archive of rss feeds that i used to subscribe to.

xpost i totally agree. that said you can break out of that bubble and once you do there are a ridiculous number of frankly miraculous podcasts right now. top of my list at the moment are rumble strip and first day back, both produced and presented by women, neither of them smirky or annoying, both with an incredible facility for channelling stories into your ear. but yeah it's also a totally different mode of engaging with something, it takes longer. it's not a substitute for reading. although for some people it kind of is now??

i also can’t listen to anything while i’m working, especially people talking while i’m trying to write. and i don’t commute. so that knocks out a lot of my podcast listening time

flopson otm

I need to take a break from the internet for a while, this thing has become a beast. When I was younger and spent all my time online, late 90s/early 2000s, it was still a relatively hidden place. I was on it because I had made really good, close friends with people who I'd have real conversations with everyday, and around hobbies (making music and sharing it, writing and sharing that, drawing, etc.)

Now it's turned into this abomination taken over by corporations. Just about every website I use has been made with addictive design, and it's getting pretty bad for my health.

It's hard to admit it's not the same place it used to be, but it's not.

Now it's just mindless, repetitive clicking over and over again, and it's like that by design, like being a slot machine addict. Talk about something going from life-changing to life-screwing so quickly.

A lot of popular podcasts sucking doesn't feel like a particularly strong condemnation of the medium to me, I mean how good were the most popular sites of 2006, or 1998? At this stage you could listen to podcasts 24/7 without listening to a single man, or a single comedian; there's a very low barrier to entry in terms of cash and technical skills, chances are there's a podcast for any interest you could think of.

I think this is fundamentally different from twitter or facebook, where the problem isn't (only) who's popular but the actual medium itself and what it's trying to do with you. Closest podcasts have to that is Apple constantly fucking up their podcasts app but plenty of ppl listen by other means and the bad shit in iTunes feels more about incompetence than insidiousness in general.

Google search is becoming more and more useless, often I'll get pages and pages of results from fucking quora.com or thedailymail.com

i agree w that. quora's ok but yeah these are not really definitive sources.

too heavily weighted toward newness as well - anything more than like a week old gets crowded out if it's a name in the news. the "news" tab should favour newness but the main results should be more even-handed

I googled 'outback' the other day because I needed information about rural Australian climate and the first few pages of results were for Outback Steakhouse and the Subaru Outback.

it's hot btw

Also Google Image Search which these days returns a slurry of contextless Pinterest sludge with the occasional genuine image on a useful site.

i use duck duck go but it's just as bad tbh

longing for the prelapsarian non-SEO'd web