a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

It does, and that's part of why they're so angry: they can sense that their ideas are not widely shared and that their politics is not a general-election winner - and that pisses them off. They wish they could get a different electorate.

To be fair, so do liberals a lot of the time.

from the NYT story about the Mobile rally:

“Hopefully, he’s going to sit there and say, ‘When I become elected president, what we’re going to do is we’re going to make the border a vacation spot, it’s going to cost you $25 for a permit, and then you get $50 for every confirmed kill,’ ” said Jim Sherota, 53, who works for a landscaping company. “That’d be one nice thing.”

Fuckin a

I looked at his Facebook page, it's mostly celebratory links about people getting killed while committing crimes and pictures of guns he wants to buy

I tried to find that quote & didn't see it - link?

found it, good god

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/donald-trump-fails-to-fill-alabama-stadium-but-fans-zeal-is-undiminished.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Politics®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

"we’re going to make the border a vacation spot, it’s going to cost you $25 for a permit, and then you get $50 for every confirmed kill,’

Countdown to a Banksy billboard on the border. 10 ... 9 ... 8 ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/21/why-evangelicals-worship-trump.html

I watched about 20 minutes of Trump yesterday. At no point will he be attacked for reliance on a teleprompter. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so stream-of-consciousness.

i guess it's p cool that the conservative base in 2015 is willing to lend an ear to progressive ideas, e.g., SOCIALIZED MEDICINE -- as long as they are being espoused by and angry white racist with an (R) after his name.

i hate to say GAFFE, but

http://i.imgur.com/A2EIKgj.jpg

check out JEB!'s left hand on the right side of the picture.

http://mic.com/articles/124262/jeb-bush-pac-accidentally-mails-out-photos-of-bush-s-head-on-black-man-s-body

then they mailed it out to 86,000 people in iowa. (mh did you get one?)

sorry, not a "gaffe" because of course super PACs have zero coordination with the candidates (tee hee)

why, jeb?

Trying to figure out which direction the racism's flowing here.

the white seems to have destroyed almost his entire body, so i'd say right to left

it also looks like there's a feather coming out of his pants

the fingers on his right hand look like Milano cookies

Oh man, didn't even notice you can see some of the original dude's hand there too. What a fucking bizarre thing to do.

Like every picture of Jeb Bush in his private life isn't him in a pair of khakis and an oxford shirt in exactly that pose. Probably looks like that in the shower. So why DO something so weird and pointless?

He's probably more dumpy and egg-shaped IRL.

so did they photoshop a third person's right hand there too?

So wait. They photoshopped him onto another person's body. Then lightened one hand and forgot to the other? This is really weird?!?!?! I don't know why I care, but wouldn't it be cheaper just to have stock photos of JEB! to use for these things?

Yeah, I'm only seeing one dark hand.

maybe they privatized their own campaign operations

Missed the Ted Cruz bashing yesterday so I just want to say now that he looks like Will Forte as Tim Calhoun

http://cdn1.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ted-cruz-tea-party-star-senator-elect-and-white-house-hopeful.jpg

^Man in a rubber mask

^ He'd rather be right than be president. Thank god!

he'd rather be rubber than be president

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxePKps87k

(never a bad time to listen to this)

I'm sure their heart was in the right place, but "bernie spunk"?
http://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11889448_785343878231198_7069626900484849712_n.jpg%3Foh%3D93024d35539c7f431e347ced216929da%26oe%3D567552BC

https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11889448_785343878231198_7069626900484849712_n.jpg?oh=93024d35539c7f431e347ced216929da&oe=567552BC

Jeb calls that hand "the little brown one."

In poll after poll of Republicans, Mr. Trump leads among women, despite having used terms like “fat pigs” and “disgusting animals” to denigrate some of them. He leads among evangelical Christians, despite saying he had never had a reason to ask God for forgiveness. He leads among moderates and college-educated voters, despite a populist and anti-immigrant message thought to resonate most with conservatives and less-affluent voters. He leads among the most frequent, likely voters, even though his appeal is greatest among those with little history of voting.

it's almost like voters are really fucking stupid and uninformed!

oh wait we're not supposed to say that

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/us/politics/why-donald-trump-wont-fold-polls-and-people-speak.html

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George Stephanopoulos brought up this article and this quote in an interview with Trump this morning:

"If I'm going down, then Bush is going down with me. He's not going to be president of the United States."

Melodramatic delivery aside, in trying to figure out what Trump is doing--which I continue to do, starting from the assumption that he simply can't win the nomination--that actually makes sense. (Trump of course denied the quote.) He's got some personal animus against Bush, similar to Perot's animus for Bush's father, and that as long as Bush doesn't win, that's enough. He either gums up the nomination, or runs third-party and gums up the election. I'm not sure he doesn't assure that Bush gets the nomination, but if that happens, he runs third-party.

The article, which I haven't read yet:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/trump-expansion-plan.html

is the biden thing actually going to happen?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/biden-meets-with-elizabeth-warren-as-he-ponders-prez-bid

Biden's quick trip to Washington wasn't on his official public schedule, which listed him as remaining in Delaware through Sunday. He's spent the past several days at his home in a secluded, wooded suburb of Wilmington spending time with family — but also meeting with his longtime political aides to assess what it would take to launch a viable presidential campaign against well-funded Democratic opponents with a huge head start.

Spending time with Biden in Delaware has been longtime Biden confidantes Mike Donilon and former Sen. Ted Kaufman, along with his sister, Valerie Owens Biden, who has played a top role in all his previous campaigns. The Associated Press first reported on the Delaware meeting, while CNN first disclosed the session with Warren.

Although Biden has yet to make a decision, his advisers have started gaming out mechanics like fundraising, ballot deadlines and an early primary state strategy. Another key consideration is the personal consequences for Biden and his family, who are still mourning the death of the vice president's son, Beau Biden, a few months ago.

eh I hope it doesn't happen

betting on the side of blinkered ego, i'd say yes

Doesn't surprise me that Trump is in the lead. I think a lot of people blame the Clintons for the whole credit default swap thing in the 90s that lead to the 2008 crash, among other things.

I mean all her big contributors are those very people. If Hillary gets in we are pretty much guaranteed a repeat of 2008.

I dont think "a lot" of people even understand the "credit default swap thing", much less clinton's role in it

Warrens entire career is diametrically opposed to Uncle Joe's credit card mafia...at least we know if she takes it she can be bought.
The ladies can vote for Joe in good conscience knowing how he stood up for Anita Hill so bravely, right? (eye roll)

Has trump actual come out swinging against credit default swaps? That's a shockingly specific position if so.

Trump came out 'very, very' in favor of the Bible, barely a month after saying he doesn't do anything that requires God's forgiveness. i really don't think his fan care what he says from day to day, as long as he says it loudly and racistly.

Otm

The first thing at this weekend's rally was thank Billy Graham.

He knows his audience