a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

er those last 2 links are messed up

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/313050/focus-shifts-michigan-michael-j-new
http://madisonproject.com/2012/02/clark-durant-for-michigan-senate/

goole i worry sometimes that your vast right-wing knowledge/research/understanding is squandered on ILX

man i worry my brainspace is being taken up by toxic trash

i think if i tried to write publicly about this stuff it'd be a matter of time before my life got ruined tbh

goole is my NRO buddy.

god deliver you both

This Durant guy.

How can you expect a guy *who is not a man in his own bedroom* to have the leadership traits to lead an entire nation?

a new contender enters the arena..

An adviser to Bernie Sanders has been quietly urging the candidate to hone in even more on getting big money out of politics. Now, he’s aggravated some in the Vermont senator’s inner circle by announcing he will explore his own White House bid.

Larry Lessig, founder of the pro-campaign finance reform group Mayday PAC, announced in a video Tuesday he is exploring a bid centered on campaign finance and voting rights reforms — a month after he wrote a detailed memo to the Sanders campaign, explaining how to more effectively talk about getting money out of politics and making the senator’s bid more credible.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-larry-lessig-2016-campaign-121280.html

you have to admit this would be pretty amazing:

When asked about his potential candidacy taking away donations and eventually votes from Sanders, who has been gaining momentum in the past few months, Lessig stressed that because — if elected — he plans to resign and leave the presidency to his vice president as soon as the Citizen Equality Act is passed, Sanders could still end up as president.

“What I would argue is that a regular candidate is an either-or proposal, what I’m talking about is an and — Lessig and Hillary or Lessig and Bernie. One would break up the corrupted system, and the other would benefit from it.

“Ideally, I would resign in a day,” he said.

re Durant et al - i wonder if these clowns ever appreciate that their bizarre obsessions code pretty fucking un-'alpha' (insofar as i understand their horseshit terminology)

codes as "power bottoms" afaict

lessig's major accomplishment is losing a low profile supreme court case

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/you-dont-put-a-superstar-in-the-middle-of-a-food-fight/269614

A high level source with knowledge of the situation told TVNewser, “Roger could have played the feud out to a ratings bonanza all over Fox for a week,” but Ailes wanted to protect Kelly. “He put Megyn above that and knew the high road was the best way to preserve and protect her dignity, integrity and class–and her safety.”

her SAFETY was even in question? jfc

apparently she was getting death threats

Once again Fox takes the high road to preserve dignity, integrity.

man i worry my brainspace is being taken up by toxic trash

WaPo editorial page is about as far as I can go, aside from the occasional lolz with Jean Teasdale at NRO. I dunno how you guys do it and maintain yr sanity.

xp

speaking of which, guess who doesn't like the Chump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-counterfeit-republican/2015/08/12/c28c2968-4052-11e5-bfe3-ff1d8549bfd2_story.html

always at least one howler per column:

They certainly are not tea partyers, those earnest, issue-oriented, book-club organizing activists who are passionate about policy.

Megyn got sent off to the gulag

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/13/gone_girl_megyn_kelly_abruptly_announces_unplanned_two_week_vacation_effective_immediately/

Will always has disclaimers attached to his words (in print, on television) this time of year identifying who his wife happens to be working for. It was Romney last time; can't remember who she was with in '08.

Disclosure: This columnist’s wife, Mari Will, works for Scott Walker.

This is priceless: she worked for three candidates last time, including...

Maseng (Will) was brought in as a debate coach for the Rick Perry 2012 presidential campaign during the staff upheaval in the fall of 2011 and continued in that capacity for the rest of the campaign. She earlier worked for Michele Bachmann prior to her announcement for President, and offered her services to the Mitt Romney campaign.

Debate coach for Rick Perry!

once trump's political star burns out watch for all the former cheerleaders pointing to his most egregious behavior "well, of course. he was always a democrap in conservative clothing duh. libtards are the real racists, sexists, &c"

More clown car:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-gop-clown-car-20150812

cruz has democrat birthers. smh.

― goole, Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty rich that the GOP might nominate a guy literally not born in the US after nominating the guy who passed Obamacare in his state.

Wasn't McCain born in Panama? It doesn't matter if you're a Republican.

while i'm beating the subject to death, the old right is by no means unanimously pro-trump

http://blackbag.gawker.com/is-donald-trump-running-a-false-flag-campaign-to-help-h-1723925057

gawker traces the "trump is working for hillary" conspiracy theory back to justin raimondo!

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which is US territory or something.

Trump’s apparent intent to run on an independent ticket — should he lose the Republican nomination — indicates he cares more about splitting the Republican vote (essentially insuring the election of a Democratic president) Donald Trump than he does about actually electing Republicans.

ssig's major accomplishment is losing a low profile supreme court case

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is bullshit? dude is a founding member of creative commons, been at the forefront of net neutrality, copyright reform, free culture, he is been a pretty positive force for good. i don't know if running for president is the best move but lessig has done some pretty important work.

more like morig

he has been at the forefront of 'copyright reform'? eh? there has been no copyright reform. not least because he lost the biggest copyright case the supreme court heard since he wrote "the future of ideas" (lol)

assuming its goal was to have some flickr content released under slightly more permissive licenses, while materially harming the free software movement, CC was a success i guess. i guess it made local neighborhood blog picture editors' lives easier. is it still around?

http://blog.fawny.org/2009/08/04/knopf-nesson/

the 'free culture' movement continues to praise him for his 'achievements', meanwhile he has moved on (because they were nil)

can't wait to see him shift the needle on campaign reform

What's a good critique of Lessig's success or failure re: free culture?

Never mind. Shouldn't read threads from the bottom up! Apologies

i guess i would say: he's slightly more radical than thomas friedman, but exactly as smart

lmao @ the idea that CC is only worthwhile for flickr photos

and the fact that copyright reform hasn't happened at all I think speaks more for entrenched corporate interests than it does for the acumen of copyright activists

he went to harvard for evolutionary psychology

man, do we have a thread on the insanity (or inanity) of evolutionary psych? Everyone involved with this bullshit is some kind of crazy.

he was right about a lot of things re: copyright (when he was still taking an interest), and the fact that nothing has changed and things have in many ways gotten worse speaks to me of his failure as a political operator or leader or persuader.

it may also speak to corporate interests, but we're talking about a presidential run here. kind of looking for a track record of success, not a resume of failures in the face of difficult odds and a couple of TED talks.

oh i have no doubts that a presidential run is a silly thing for lessig to do and will accomplish basically nothing

that said though i do think it is strange that you are placing the failure of efforts to reform a completely fucked and byzantine copyright system onto lessig's shoulders -- one dude we're talking about. i mean, "may also" speak to corporate interests? "may also"?? what has, i don't know, the past 100 years of copyright law taught us?

CC by the way has been one of the most successful ways of simplifying copyright law without having to wrangle in some complex legislative change through congress and is pretty vital and widely used ime. i don't know, i'm a librarian, we maintain shitloads of materials in our collections and basically work daily to enable as wide of access as possible and CC has been a life saver for us in clarifying what in our collections and resources can be used by whom and in what ways. would it be better if more people used it? sure, but i think you are underestimating its use and importance by dismissing it as useful for lol "local neighborhood blogs" and flickr. i mean there are whole global movements right now e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_educational_resources that widely use and rely on CC and are totally revamping how research is published, produced, and consumed and CC plays a huge fucking role in making that happen

sorry the derail, i know there are other copyright threads! back to shitting on these republican jokers

man, do we have a thread on the insanity (or inanity) of evolutionary psych? Everyone involved with this bullshit is some kind of crazy.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:17 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not a great thread but

Things undergraduates with a burgeoning interest in evolutionary psychology say

i mean i'm 40% trolling here with the lol flickr stuff, but i do want to push back against the idea that lessig is solely a victim of circumstance. he also has a history of being unpersuasive and tactically inept, assuming you agree with his ideas (which i haven't always).

also i think you're overestimating the role of CC licenses (and especially the role of the CC foundation) in those open research/publishing movements. i don't have any evidence so this is appeal to self-authority fallacy (the worst of the fallacies), but i did work in westminster researching copyright, open source software, open data, etc. for a (lol now discredited) political party, i was an academic for 10 years, i worked for an academic publisher when lessig was at his peak as a figurehead of the copyright movement (2005ish?), and i'm now a data scientist (and a user of open data). CC simply never came up in my practical experience.

i also think the least copyleft (and most used?) CC licenses are actively harmful.

do i sound like kevin bacon in jfk now

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsB/766-9760.gif

copyleft is coming back

yeah, i have really mixed feelings about CC (is there a thread on this?) cuz it's fucking useful as shit when you're working on a project but at the same time one is aware that it (along with, to be fair, the internet availability of images in general) really poses an enormous threat to people who scrape out a living as professional photographers.

even without CC that would probably be true, given, well, the internet. the cost value of stock photos was already going to plummet down to near zero on average (same with all media m/l)

yeah, definitely. i just catch myself relying on it in projects where the authorities now count on a basically zero budget for images and it's like, ugh

JEB! is into torture

news.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-leaves-door-open-torture-government-215119175.html