TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

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HBO now talking about reviving the deadwood movies. maybe they're going to pass on a season 3 of TD; have to get back into viewers good graces somehow

xxp there are no original ideas

still unclear about the stated "casually sexist" quality of the final episode.. could anybody clarify on what was so overtly sexist about NP's writing, or characters in the episode? pls pardon my insensitivity, or inability to recognize the sexism at play here.

my guess would be that the men get to die their dramatic deaths while the women are the passive receptacles of their memories (and babies).

ding a ding ding

the female true detective somehow gets sidelined in the midst of all this for no good reason and the gun moll acquiesces to a clearly false promise in spectacularly dramatic and stupid fashion.

it just seemed like the reasonable course of action for MVP Bezzeredes (female, yes) to avoid the dubious end-games that Frank and Ray had set themselves to, to shitty consequence, sure. "gun moll" did put up some protest, no?

I think a pretty good season 3 could be built in/around the massive nuOil fracking boomtowns of either the Bakken fields of North Dakota or the Permian Basin of Western Texas. Good stew of greed, disposable workers, blood of the earth mythologies, institutional corruption, and lots and lots of crime.

North Dakota, what's the big city up there

butte, ND. pop 68

Now why didn't they name blood & oil that?

Love the ND idea. Past two seasons have been places Nic P. has lived already, so next season will likely be a midwestern liberal-arts college.

the ND idea really is outstanding. too good to really happen probably.

I suppose it is. Some search results for "williston north dakota crime"

Crime In North Dakota’s Oil Boom Towns Is So Bad That The FBI Is Stepping In

North Dakota's oil boom no boon to cops struggling to keep up

An Oil Town Where Men Are Many, and Women Are Hounded

Crime turns oil boomtown into Wild West

Are you going to watch blood & oil?

I think the network and pizzo might be concerned about perception - accused of chasing fargo, even though this crime sounds way different from the crime in the series (or the movie)

(xxp)

(Just in case someone's like "what's blood & oil?" It's the upcoming network soap about the oil boom in ND and the reason other than Fargo that true d won't be going up there)

Well then... I hadn't even heard of Blood & Oil until now.

alos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_50-lKvqF4

I'm gonna give Blood & Oil a try for sure. (Don Johnson's in it, btw - take that as warning or enticement, as you will.)

KPCC's Welcome To Vinci podcast is a good one for the behind-the-scenes on Vernon, high-speed rail issues, locations, etc.

http://www.scpr.org/programs/welcome-to-vinci/

True Detective Season 3 could easily be about Vince Vaughn's mom:
http://www.madcowprod.com/2015/08/12/true-detective-chicago-el-chapo-vince-vaughns-mom/

Dorothy Mantooth is a SAINT

Also that link is pretty crazy, and I hadn't heard about his gun opinions. His mother looks younger than he does.

today, at the park:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNR2mMcVEAEmAQ5.jpg

idgi where is the sherriff badge encased in lucite

we were going to go camping in Guerneville for labor day so i looked up filming locations

NOT ONE GUERNEVILLE LOCATION
it's all fuckin mt baldy & sequioa np
lame

yes i am annie wilkes

Guerneville's fantastic -- go to the amphitheater in the Armstong Woods. And the breakfast tacos at Coffee Bazaar. Was disappointed that the Northern Cali locations weren't as specific as the SoCal ones on the show.

i mainly just wanted to go so I can try to see Bohemian Grove or at least say I was near there lol

Missed shootout location in Armstrong Woods:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2357/2188346725_91be1b1793.jpg

Did they shoot under the skin there?

Are they doing season 3 or is that to be determined?

HBO's honcho said “I told Nic our door is open. I’d love to do another season with him. I think he’s spectacular.” Don't think there's been any more detail than that.

nicki pizza replied, are you saying you want my blue balls in your heart

sorry, that was really dumb.

i really hope that season 3 happens, and i really hope they take their time writing it and filming it

It got really good ratings iirc, it'll be back, just not necessarily next summer

this is great http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/sep/24/true-detective-sympathy-devil/

David Cronenberg Passed on True Detective Season Two Because ‘the Script Was Bad’

http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/why-david-cronenberg-passed-on-true-detective.html

cronenberg otm

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/true-detective-season-3-still-up-in-the-air-as-hbo-inks-deal-with-nic-pizzolatto-through-2018-1201642681/

HBO has inked an overall deal with “True Detective” creator Nic Pizzolatto through 2018, Variety has learned. Under the new pact, a number of new projects from Pizzolatto are being considered, including future installments of “True Detective,” though a third season is still not a sure thing.

However, the deal paves the way for a go-ahead decision for another season of “True Detective.” Sources say HBO has been looking to make a change in the way the show is run, given the critical response to the second season, and has presented Pizzolatto with a number of options. Those options include: him working with a staff of writers, having a new showrunner come in, as well as him going it alone again. In all scenarios, he would remain an exec producer.

Sources say HBO has been pressing Pizzolatto for an answer so they can move forward with production on the show.

don't bother

"I welcome judgement."

https://lawrenec.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/nic-pizzolatto.jpg

Couple of episodes to go. I haven't hated 2 by any means, though I can see why people do--the first season had Woody Harrelson around to mitigate (and make fun of) McConaughey's relentlessly elevated philosophizing, Vaughn and Farrell just pile it on unchecked. The Dolls were funny, right out of the blue (wish they'd turned the volume up). Not sure what's on the mysterious hard drive; maybe it'll be the same stuff that was on that VHS in the first season, but digitized.

Definitely got sillier towards the end. I'd sum the whole thing up two ways: 1) Too many lines like "The trajectory of it." Way too many. 2) When Colin Farrell smiled at one point in the last half-hour, I'm pretty sure it was the first and only time he smiled during the entire eight hours. The only time I laughed myself was Vaughn's bucket-list line.

I searched "polygon" from the URL and can't see that anybody posted this. Whatever you thought of the show, pretty impressive.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/24/9155667/true-detective-season-2-explain-details-characters-plot-help-episode-7-8-recap-overview

This one really helped me to make sense of it:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/08/03/true_detective_season_two_a_guide_to_the_plot_of_this_confusing_season.html

Season 2 was really good. Some odd jump cuts script and direction wise but there was a lot to hold up against series 1 imo

Thanks for the Slate link--will look that over. I gave up trying to follow the story in anything more than broad outline by about the third episode. When I criticize the terseness and weird constructions of the script, I do realize it's very consciously stylized to be noir dialogue--you could say the same about Double Indemnity ("Why do they talk like that?" one of my students once asked), and I love the script there. So there is design. Some of the stills in the polygon link are excellent, especially the ones where you can wipe the frame left or right (I've never seen that before).