Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

Some recent campus actions border on the surreal. In April, at Brandeis University, the Asian American student association sought to raise awareness of microaggressions against Asians through an installation on the steps of an academic hall. The installation gave examples of microaggressions such as “Aren’t you supposed to be good at math?” and “I’m colorblind! I don’t see race.” But a backlash arose among other Asian American students, who felt that the display itself was a microaggression. The association removed the installation, and its president wrote an e-mail to the entire student body apologizing to anyone who was “triggered or hurt by the content of the microaggressions.”

lol

long article by social psychologist jonathan haidt and some dude from FIRE

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:02 (ten years ago)

The only thing I know about FIRE is that right-wing people keep referring me to it to prove something about PC culture or whatever.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:29 (ten years ago)

yeah i don't know anything about it, just the name makes me apprehensive - and i don't exactly trust haidt to pick appropriate collaborators

still, hella scholarlyish

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:34 (ten years ago)

Thank god, we have so many colleges and universities like Oral Roberts University, which are run by right-thinking conservative evangelicals to compete with all these effete mind-coddling colleges and universities, so we are all safe and the problems cited above are trivial. After all, the free market is always right, and a healthy competition will solve the problem effortlessly via the Invisible Hand without our having to lift a finger.

Aimless, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Individual_Rights_in_Education

goole, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)

boring article but I lolled when they got butthurt about Condi Rice being uninvited to campus events

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:01 (ten years ago)

well right i know THAT

weird board of advisors

one of the things i hate most about politics is groups that make all kinds of representations that seem obfuscatory of their exact position when you just wanna know like, cmon are you a friend or foe

(this is why i am not made for anything political)

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:02 (ten years ago)

Aimless otm.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:11 (ten years ago)

in politics assume foe

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:13 (ten years ago)

why should i assume anything you say

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:17 (ten years ago)

ass out of you and me iirc

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:19 (ten years ago)

like out of requiem for a dream huh? but i don't even know you!!!

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:26 (ten years ago)

when you just wanna know like, cmon are you a friend or foe

valid, but tbh i'm wary & weary of only seeing things though this lens

drash, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:28 (ten years ago)

fair and balanced

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:29 (ten years ago)

speculatively wondering if the shift isn't mainly on the part of the administrators, and if it isn't basically driven by a changed sense of academic "mission" -- the "ideal" of some sort of liberal-artsy jousting ground of "big ideas" increasingly disappeared into "an efficiently organized place for young people to learn job skills" from which flows a very different notion of the sort of campus culture they wish to create, cultivate, enforce, etc.

where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Thursday, 13 August 2015 05:35 (ten years ago)

When I was in college they had Ice Cube play our SpringFest thing and he closed with Fuck the Police

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:14 (ten years ago)

dear old Yale

Neil S, Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:17 (ten years ago)

the first time i ever even had to think about asking a student to leave my classroom, i also wondered, like, why the fuck should they do what i say? if i call this student out, is my awesome magic authority as an instructor going to carry it, or will i lose face when they refuse? liberal-artsy jousting land seems to go along with that, honor codes, that sort of thing. whereas codifying instructors' procedures to perform classroom-management actions that exclude students sounds hella corporate to me.

j., Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:20 (ten years ago)

had a kid (not a student) show up with a knife to class once, playing with it in the back of the room while I lectured on some intro bullshit. he took copious notes and gave them to the student next to him, stream of consciousness big ideas, scared the students. we called the cops, didn't seem too corporate iirc

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)

knives = clear-cut criterion

j., Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)

stream of consciousness big ideas?

how's life, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)

this is the free speech and creepy liberalism thread, you gotta choose your words carefully

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)

ideas not promoting workforce readiness

j., Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:35 (ten years ago)

Must be the awesome magical authority that keeps kids seated and listening to teachers for 12+ years. It's the same magical authority that will throw a kid's parents in jail for not sending them to school.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

búm

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)

it isn't basically driven by a changed sense of academic "mission" -- the "ideal" of some sort of liberal-artsy jousting ground of "big ideas" increasingly disappeared into "an efficiently organized place for young people to learn job skills" from which flows a very different notion of the sort of campus culture they wish to create, cultivate, enforce, etc.

Students have long formed the foremost cohort in society that presents a potential threat to the stability of existing power structures. They protest the status quo more often and more vigorously than other segments of society, take to the streets or barricades with less hesitation, and often form the vanguard for more general social movements.

Conservatives instinctively prefer to manage this threat through the imposition of conformity by threat (and use) of force. Current university administrations seem to have grasped that enforcing uniformity of thought among students can best be achieved through the rhetoric of idealism, where the elimination of conflict and emotional distress through consensus is posed as the ideal social goal. They could almost be Quakers, but the resemblance is only superficial.

That is a huge turnaround from a few decades back, when the standard rhetoric of college students embraced class struggle and armed revolution as the preferred means to their social ideal. Conservatives can only see this as 'coddling', because they look at the rhetoric, but not the results. They ought to see it as a brilliant strategy to pacify what is traditionally the most unruly and volatile segment of society.

Aimless, Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:00 (ten years ago)

Maybe off by 'a few decades'. The Reagan 80s were def not like that.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:03 (ten years ago)

I was well out of college by then, but my impression was that the social ideal of the Reagan era was (I'm paraphrasing here) "times are tough, so it's every man for himself, buckos".

Aimless, Thursday, 13 August 2015 18:04 (ten years ago)

LIASON WITH THE YOUNG

j., Friday, 14 August 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)

amazing

goole, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

http://www.rt.com/usa/311664-school-child-lawsuit-god/

little nietzsche

j., Friday, 21 August 2015 01:40 (ten years ago)

multiple women, like all at once???????

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)

I’m not opposed to reading memoirs written by LGBTQ individuals or stories containing suicide. I’m not even opposed to reading Freud, Marx or Darwin.

even?????

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)

lol

flopson, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)

seems a lil different to treat a book (discussion) as a potential detriment to mental health than as a poison that will sap your faith

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)

(or is it?!?!)

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)

how do these people even get into college, i don't understand

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:33 (ten years ago)

managed to not soak a FAFSA form in blood or feces

goole, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:35 (ten years ago)

i mean that kid actually seems really smart, no doubt. but it seems there should be a question on the common app like, "if assigned a text or project whose content conflicts with your previously-held beliefs, will you engage with it?"

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:37 (ten years ago)

kid is apparently going to study public health in sub-saharan africa. can't wait to read his paper: "Abstinence for Africa"

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:40 (ten years ago)

a person for whom a classic national geographic would actually seem pornographic

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:43 (ten years ago)

Luckily there is no sex nor violence in the Bible, so his story checks out.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:46 (ten years ago)

How does a story like this end up on the Washington Post? Someone doesn't feel like doing his homework and becomes a hero.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:48 (ten years ago)

Also when is he planning on gouging out his right eye?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:49 (ten years ago)

He has admitted not being able to view these images without it compromising him, it's the entire crux of the piece. If he believes so strongly in the words of the Bible he should following the very words he is quoting. What an idiot.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:50 (ten years ago)

they mean comics with lesbian oral sex in them, but they didn't mean gouging gouging

j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:19 (ten years ago)


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