THE LEFTOVERS: HBO's nondenominational post-rapture series

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also wasn't season one mostly adaptation while going forward its all original material? harder to fuck it up when you've got a blueprint.

(extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 06:27 (eight years ago) link

re: season 1, the basic situation/plot/characters are the novel's, but the emotional tone and much of what happens to the characters is new stuff written by lindelof and perrota

iirc perotta is still around in the writer's room, and it could be he's a good influence on lindelof

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 09:31 (eight years ago) link

also man oh man almost six years later and no one's over the freakin' contents of that church at the end of LOST, dizamn

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 09:33 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I'm mostly kidding bc I understand how that ending was frustrating (it was w/e to me, not great but about as competently executed as could be expected given how much it had sprawled? disregarding, momentarily, the question of whether it should have sprawled like that in the first place)

overall though I think lindelof is one of the better forces for speculative fiction (in TV and lesser extent in film) we have, which might stem from the fact that we have so few but he's ambitious and versatile and devoted to character and weird atmosphere.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 12:14 (eight years ago) link

fp'd u for that tbh

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

i'm sayin, no chill to be had over that ish

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

I agree that Lindelof's strength is in sustaining a compelling mood/tone, and hopefully Perotta's influence will keep his other, more annoying tendencies in check.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Showrunner Damon Lindelof has said the new season will have a stronger “narrative engine” compared to the more meditative first season.

hmmmmmm

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

narrative engine powered by polar bear pushing a wheel

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

we have to get to the cabin

nose, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

is everyone returning for season 2? liv tyler?

akm, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

they're getting rid of quite a few of the supporting cast but Liv is in the trailer

Number None, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

new reviews are largely glowing, incl. a few by people who were not necessarily high on the first season

premieres sunday night, and i mean it's not like this week's SNF is gonna be good so c'mon y'all

slothroprhymes, Friday, 2 October 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

I've heard that all the episodes are going to be like those couple of one-character point of view ones they did in the first season, as those were the most well liked.

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 2 October 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

also the GR is pretty much gone now

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 2 October 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

remind me what the GR is

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 October 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

guilty remnant

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 2 October 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah thx

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

ok the combo of the new intro plus that prologue this week was amazing

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 5 October 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link

yeah loved this premiere.

slothroprhymes, Monday, 5 October 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link

I think this show learned from all the mistakes of Lost, which is, just relish in the weird, there doesn't need to be an answer for everything

I lol'd when I noticed that this sentiment is baked right into the show's new theme song

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 5 October 2015 07:02 (eight years ago) link

the bbq scene was great

nose, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm honestly not sure if I liked it. It was audacious, and brave, and well done, but... I really really loved season 1, why did they change everything?

It reminds me a bit of Hannibal season 2. First seasons just emotionally hit a perfect spot, and ended absolutely as good as they could. And I know, that there was no reason in repeating that, and that that would just be diminishing returns, and that I should just rewatch seasons one if I want to. But I still sorta just want more of the same...

Frederik B, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link

well, it's changed because there's no book to base it on now, so it's gotta go somewhere.

akm, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

Sure. Still, this would never have happened if it was on Showtime.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I am gonna spend the next little while chuckling and imagining the Showtime version of this show

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

Okay I'm 5 minutes into either this or Quest For Fire. Can't be sure. Will update.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link

showtime would have run the same fucking idea into the ground for six years! I hope twin peaks survives

akm, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 04:36 (eight years ago) link

loved all of this, perfect level of creepy wtfery to keep me coming back

prologue made me cry a little, v cool

glad that regina king took up the mantle of jogging places while we wait for j theroux hot cop to show up again

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 05:46 (eight years ago) link

I loved that even in an almost Garvey-free episode they still found time for a line about how pretty Theroux is.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 06:50 (eight years ago) link

tbf he is a very handsome man

the first episode was wonderful, and the second, while a bit less unexpected and more in line with what we've seen earlier, is also really good bc we see kevin attempting to grow and not just react in a permanent scream as he did for most of the 1st season. (although he would prob not be this /relatively/ well-adjusted without nora's help.)

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

that said as soon as i saw ghost patti i was like "god damnit." ann dowd's performance as her was great but i don't know how the guilty remnant plot arc can continue beyond its logical apotheosis at the end of season 1.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear the term "Guilty Remnant" ever again

Coon still rules, loved the scene with the MIT dudes

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

carrie coon was robbed of a first season emmy nom - based just on her scenes in these two episodes if the same thing happens next year it'd be goddamn ridiculous. the character is also very well-written but i can't imagine it would work this well with any other actor.

re: guilty remnant i hope you're right. and while kevin's inability to let aspects of the past go even in the face of real hope, it's also believable - it's the classic arc of fighting your way out of depression. that shit doesn't want to lose.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

*in the face of real hope is frustrating

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

reza azlan has a regular recap interview on vulture talking abt spiritual/religious symbolism in the show since he's a consultant. it's kinda cool - apparently kevin may or may not be a shaman which to me is a huge lol just picturing fuckup kevin burning down a sweatlodge etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

ha! i could kinda see that.

just finished episode 2 and there are def some shots that look like guilty remnant motherfuckers but that could just be to wrap up their portion of the program through the eyes of kevin's ex-wife or (ugh) liv tyler, who it appears we'll (ugh) have to see a bit more of (ugh)

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

interested in Timelord Matt & what's going on with him and/or that church

interested in christmas-lights trailer man

i cannot stop thinking about regina king's bird in a box from ep 1

looking forward to more of this weirdass town

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

this show for all it's ???? is one of the most enjoyable things on tv for me because it's so strange & challenging

should i read the novel y/n

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

looooooool at the last music cue and the actual Rickrolling in last night's episode. Show's troll game is peerless.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 26 October 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

i kinda like that about it tbh

slothroprhymes, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Me too! Not enough dramas that dgaf

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 26 October 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

i really like the first four episodes of this season--a lot. does that mean i should watch season 1 or is it optional?

ryan, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

you should watch it imo, given the way you analyze other shows on other threads i'm interested in yr thoughts

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

though in terms of forward momentum you don't necessarily need to

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's not as if stuff is ~explained~ in the first reason that i need to know. like, i gathered that episode 3 was picking up a storyline from season 1 but it was sorta gratifying to be so disoriented and trying to figure out what was going on.

ryan, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

this last one really felt like a Lost episode, but in a good way

akm, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

i wish there was more activity on this thread.

last 10 or so minutes of the last episode were just outstanding.

ryan, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

no one watches things at the same time any more. I plan on watching cos i loved s 1 but wrapping up some other shows first.

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link


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