a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

thanks Donald

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/somebody-should-do-something-about-all-the-problem-11018

Dr. Casino currently bringing the awesome on this thread - Reagan fanfic, yes. Pageant, yes. Re: Ryan, "college-debate-team" is perfect. (Note that Cruz is currently occupying this slot, and he has more actual college-debate-team chops than anybody. (Good luck with that, Sen. Smugface. We'll see how far it gets you with the public.))

What's happening and people

This could be fun!

"Beau was losing his nouns and the right side of his face was partially paralyzed. But he had a mission: He tried to make his father promise to run, arguing that the White House should not revert to the Clintons and that the country would be better off with Biden values."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-joe-biden-in-2016-what-would-beau-do.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

"Biden values"?

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/17/17948/16x9/750.jpg?4525

oh good Maureen Dowd here to explain how the conventional wisdom works

lol

I was near a tv showing the NBC nightly news yesterday, and I'm kind of in awe of how useless national news is. They had several minutes of commentary that was basically quoting Maureen Dowd and the WSJ about Biden and the current presidential candidate landscape, then basically went "hmm."

I guess if your broadcast is just pulling a quote from Maureen Dowd and displaying it on tv, you should reconsider whether you need to broadcast anything.

they're totally irrelevant and they know it

new poll
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLfiprmXAAEkXXN.png

list needs something, maybe a half dozen more candidates

fwiw for people who care about my personal experience in the primary season i have a thread on 77. sorry for the 77ness, but i may end up incriminating friends and neighbors and don't need it searchable.

you're Tim Pawlenty?

MAYBE

oh TPaws

"Biden values" include Amtrak and unwanted shoulder massages

and putting everything on a credit card and paying 96 percent interest.

Graham polling worse than Santorum = lol

if only Graham could win over that one voter

Kinda hope Trump goes after Cruz in the debate for having been born in Canada, even though Cruz has been one of Trump's most willing defenders. Wanna see Trump sidepoint with his thumb and make a "get a load of this guy" face.

this face?
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F3176536%2Fimages%2Fo-DONALD-TRUMP-facebook.jpg&f=1

still trying to figure out why cruz is one of trump's biggest supporters, because trump's reign of terror would seem to steal from cruz's target audience, more than anyone else. maybe the idea is that when trump finally pushes it too far and collapses, the trump crowd will migrate to cruz, and he might even get some reciprocal support from trump? i dunno.

That's the only thing that makes sense.

xp YES

1) I suspect Maureen Dowd hallucinated her entire column out of pure Clinton hate;
2) Don't take political advice from someone with brain cancer.

o rly?

http://i.imgur.com/pONcaE9.jpg

Graham polling worse than Santorum = lol

Santorum was on some Sunday news show and I almost (but not quite) felt a little sorry for him, because the entire interview was about how he's not going to be in the debates. He tried to spin back to his successes four years ago, and it seemed like even HE'S not enthused this go 'round.

I still cant believe Santorum ended up the last idiot standing before Romney

I believe Karl Malone is correct - much of the Trump support goes to Cruz if/when Trump drops.

Because FIGHTER.

Saith the dextrosphere: the BASE wants a FIGHTER, not a NAMBY-PAMBY RINO. Someone who will STAND UP to the lamestream media and the spineless GOP establishment leadership. ELEVENTY. They've TRIED the milquetoast moderates - McCain, Romney - and now they want REAL. They want a FIGHTER.

capitalization sic

maybe they should recruit Christina Aguilera

someone who's a BIG person who believes in VERY BIG

I still cant believe Santorum ended up the last idiot standing before Romney

hey i voted for him in TN's open primary

Christina Aguilera / Katy Perry 2016

Beau Biden working for Sanders on his deathbed

Please splain to a political dum dum how this benefits Bernie

just guessin' really, as hrc and joeb are cut from the same "we know how DC works" cheesecloth

all the discussion around Biden has to do with how Hillary is looking p weak at the moment - he's not being drafted to counter Bernie, he's being drafted as an alternative to Hillary: a "mainstream" Dem that's a known quantity, broader appeal, more predictable/conventional policy positions etc. He isn't a wildcard like Bernie, and he isn't stiff as a board like Hillary, the appeal is obvious. He'll cut into Hillary's support, not Bernie's.

and both voted to authorize W in Iraq

xp

that being the case, Biden undercutting Hillary is good for Bernie - now there's two candidates undermining her candidacy

and both voted to authorize W in Iraq

I know this is likely to never really be an issue with the electorate, or to come up v much in the campaigns, but it really is a litmus test for measuring the venal stupidity of mainstream candidates imo. Just think, if it comes down to JEB! and Hillary then we are back to having two morons who supported that war as the frontrunners, neither of whom will be willing to cop to the cynical calculus that led to that support.

like 2004 all over again

Wasn't there an international thing w the Bush re-election where certain countries dropped a lot of barriers to US immigrants who opposed the war? Hope that comes back if there is a 3rd Bush presidency.

I doubt that was significant... altho I am bummed that basically no one wants us (whenever I have idly indulged my fantasy of moving somewhere else like, say, New Zealand)

Has anyone ever done an analysis of how many people actually carried through on their threats and left the country following W's re-election in 2004?

what about all the racists who were gonna leave when O was elected

(didn't Nugent say that at one point?)

I wouldn't really have a problem leaving the US tbh, it's leaving California that would be harder. (I'm all for us seceding btw, you guys can grow your own food and make your own movies/tv shows)

you better leave before the earthquake secedes you

"Biden values"?

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if it comes down to JEB! and Hillary then we are back to having two morons who supported that war

I prefer "evil fucks" to "morons" in this case. Biden seems to have paid no political price for the authorization vote, and i don't think it was decisive in Clinton's loss to Obama. Even Bubba said 'Murricans prefer leaders to be "strong and wrong" in most circumstances.