wow i might've loved it as much or more than Reacher, which i saw multiple times in the theater... it doesnt beautifully skirt that ridiculous/awesome line which is what gets me hooting thru most of Reacher, but its got more heart... McQ's made 2 of my favorite action movies of the last decade at this point
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
i loved that mcquarrie couldnt resist reacherfying Ethan Hunt a little... not too much, but that alec baldwin speech about him being the living manifestation of destiny, so perfect, so reacher. at the same time it keeps rolling with that weary/humble angle on EH that they had in Ghost Protocol and which blends really well with cruise's intensity & charisma, he's never been more likable than in these last 2 m:i's
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
I just rewatched 1 and saw 2-4 for the first time over the past week. I didn't remember much caring for the first one at the time (which is most of the reason I never saw the others, and I think I may have unfairly lumped it in with De Palma's lackluster mid-'90s stretch of films) but it was quite good. If I'd seen 2 at the time, though, it would've likely ended my interest in the series just as decisively as it was quite bad. It could've just as easily been a parody of a Woo film (all of his signifiers, poorly and laughably employed). 3 and 4 were pretty great junk, though. I'm glad they finally put the emphasis back on the team dynamics in 4 and I hope it carries over into the new one.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
mi2 and face/off share so many things that made me woah at the time and make me cringe now....lyfe
canks recommendation is the highest praise and will be treated as such
― irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
fuckin nailed it
so much fun
― irl lol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
why isn't having a compelling villain a priority for movies like this
crazy talk Harris was vvg here
― irl lol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
There were some good moments, felt like the Syndicate could have been a little bit more ominous but I liked the casting of the players and the origin angle
I did realize upon walking out that they could have changed all of Renner's dialogue to "derp IMF derpy doo" and it'd be the same film
― Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
that's not plot that's merely breathing space. movie knew this and put more emphasis on eyebrow placement than exposition movie otm
― irl lol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
This was pretty great, yeah
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link
y y y
I'm not sure cruise has ever been funny before? or is it just a better drafted positioning of his usual character into joeks?
nb lestat dancing with the corpse that time excluded, but that's was def laughing at not with
― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 September 2015 08:46 (nine years ago) link
loved this. was skeptical of the 'best mi yet' claims cuz i thought it very unlikely ghost protocol could be topped but this may beat it. was extremely impressed by rebecca ferguson, very much hoping she comes back or gets another action movie. thought kenan did a great job as the villain.
― balls, Saturday, 5 September 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
lol
― μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 5 September 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
as antagonists go i'd have this guy only behind hoffman (or voight in the first one but the first one is kind of an outlier in that there isnt' a big bad they're going against, the antagonist isn't apparent until nearly the end)(loved the callout to the breakin in the first one in this one also). also liked out he went out more than any of the others, the sheer animal hate and contempt, more satisfying than hoffman getting taken out by a car or dude falling down a garage.
― balls, Saturday, 5 September 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
The villain reminded me of Tim Heidecker. I kinda wish it had been.
― Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Saturday, 5 September 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
I really really liked the part at the opera.
― franny glasshole (franny glass), Sunday, 6 September 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb49-oV0F78
yes
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
i'm a tiny bit worried by the slight vv serious your past will come back to haunt you Skyfall/Spectre vibes the trailer opens with but the rest of it looks good and Rebecca Ferguson is back on a motorcycle so I'm down.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
excited for this
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
it's kind of amazing how this series seems to fly under the radar, there's just so much noise out there about so many franchises and reboots and this just keeps on trucking and making money without making a huge splash anymore. it manages to add new characters and it still doesn't feel too overcrowded (probably bc they also cut loose a few characters when needed.) i can't think of another series that has essentially gone as long as this where the first three films are (possibly!) inferior to the next three. i'm making a major assumption on FALLOUT based on the above alone, but the skill with which 4 & 5 were executed gives me good cause for optimism.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
Ferguson reminds me of Amy Ryan a bit.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
I'm 100% in for a second McQuarrie-directed chapter
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
yeah the last MI movie was everything that Spectre wasn’t (ie enjoyable, great) not that there’s a direct relationship between the two franchises but they occupy a similar fandom i think. but yr cache is spies gadgets & chases the best way forward is NOT stupid
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
MI films also have the advantage of not slowing down to turn into a grim kitchen sink dramas about the past and families.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
M.I. franchise >> Bond franchise
― fgti spinner (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
― mh, Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:19 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
same
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
I never saw the last one but they've done a pretty good job of maintaining the right tone, yeah. Neither stakes-free nor portentous
― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
i can't think of another series that has essentially gone as long as this where the first three films are (possibly!) inferior to the next three
feels right to me. i have affection for 1 and 3 but ghost protocol & rogue nation felt like considerable upgrades in characterization and complexity
agreed that this is better than the bond series even though it's sort of an unfair comparison. there are so many bond movies! and yet so many of them suck
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
MI2 is hilariously bad
― fgti spinner (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
3 was overrated 4 a good solid comeback 5 was just excellent
1 was great 2 was huge fun but fell apart upon rewatch/over time
OTM to say that it is better than bond and def doesn't get credit it deserves as a series
Esp when u include Knight and Day and Jack reacher which yknow u should
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
MI is definitely, inarguably superior overall to the bond movies made over the same period, there's no question (though Casino Royale is the best single film)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
MI1 is an extremely good cold-blooded DePalma action movie but my enjoyment of it is more objective than subjective.
MI2 is a ridiculous movie which is kind of amazing, I actually remember hardly anything about it other than being somewhat bored and somewhat impressed by the full Woo treatment and how it failed w/that material.
MI3 felt kind of cheap to me for some reason. I never like to dis films for seeming like TV shows but it felt like a very special episode of Alias. However I did LIKE it.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
Haven't seen the JR movies but Knight and Day is horrible
― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
also idk if i'd consider any m:i movie as great as on her majesty's secret service. yet
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:00 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah otm
that said it would be nice if Mads got a turn as an M:I villain since they're arguably the series' weakspot
― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
Casino Royale was made by an exceptional filmmaker in total sync w/his star which i think is also what the MI films have mostly had going for them.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
vs Daniel Craig sniping subtly in the press about the last couple films + whatever the hell happened on Quantum of Solace.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
We should poll the hollywood movies affected by the writers' strike of that year.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
Tom Cruise has this career spot now where he's either a superhuman in action films who is unbothered by normal human concerns (MI, Jack Reacher) or a self-questioning protagonist who has to find a fundamental truth in a science fiction film (Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow) and it's pretty funny.
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
Casino royale falls to shit at crash scene
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
MI5 is better imo
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
Do any of the M:I movies have a moment (such as the television series almost always had) where Martin Landau rips off his phony face and he grins in triumph at fooling the villains yet again? Asking for a friend.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
Plenty of them but it might not mean as much to you as none of them are he
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
Ought I to go straight to rogue nation and see how well it sits with me before sampling the others?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
First one is a good starting point then three to five in order if it lands imo
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
imo you could start with any of them as long as you grasp the basic premise
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
imo the thing that's the most wild about the second one, other than it being a misfire in tone, is that Dougray Scott was stuck on the set because the production went long, and was replaced by Hugh Jackman in the X-Men film
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
lots of opinions today, sorry lads
i tend to think of the first three as standalone films in a way, they all present vv different Ethan Hunts and they're each in service to the style of the director (DePalma's more Hitchcockian flair, Woo's OTT doves and duality thing, JJ Abrams' expensive TV pilot trademark) whereas 4 and 5 feel a bit more in line w/each other and 6 feels like the first direct sequel to the previous installment.
i would start w/4 tbh (not a judgement on the first three, not completely, i just prefer the last couple.)
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
Dougray Scott i actually think was extremely good in MI2, he made for a vv good despicable villain. he'd probably have rather ended up with Hugh Jackman's career obv.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link