Ta-Nehisi Coates Rules, The Thread

its p interesting that this terminology of body to refer to ppl emerged from the academy which is the ultimate mind prioritized over body culture

p entirely predictable, u mean

I don't know, I think Coates's use of "body" echoes its theoretical use in the academy but is not identical to it. It's idiosyncratic and poetic in his usage.

Like part of its purpose is to serve as a metaphor for something inexpressible

you are pretty clearly not into his use of it, but I don't think it's merely theoryspeak.

yeah i mean his usage is prob meant to stick out and be noticed which cld be seen as using a artless form artfully, just the academic focus on lexicon as the the ultimate unit of meaning kinda drives me nuts, also im just not sure abt physical oppression really being more key than physiological, they necessarily always work together, ultimately obvs these are all quibbles of what is a good and important work, and also an indication of how tnc manages to be compelling on all diff levels while writing abt extremely difficult topics

pychological not physiological obvs

surely the talk of 'bodies' reflects 18&19th century discourse's fixation on the physiological; talk of 'monstrous specimens' (e.g. what was written about the hottentot venus), 'hybrids' etc.

qed you are turning mind into body xp

tru

anyway horseshoe interesting points i am reconsidering based on yr conversating

Ta-Nehisi Coates ‏@tanehisicoates 28s29 seconds ago
Wow. @georgelazenby gives #BetweentheWorldandMe a glossary for heads. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ObYyfj6ZzNpNoxIQpSZcROzs5bTkjWK0ml3rmHV_Li0/edit

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/01/is-ta-nehisi-coates-writing-a-new-comic-book-for-marvel/

that would be nice but i'd be surprised if he took the bait.

that would be nice but i'd be surprised if he took the bait.

“Bait?” I must’ve missed something. What’s the catch?

Regardless, I agree. It’d be nice. And Secret Wars has been awesome.

Brevoort has come under fire for promoting the semblance of diversity in comics or in piggybacking other cultures signifiers without hiring a diverse stable of writers/artists
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/diversity-in-comics/

in much the same way that denton has stated TNC is gawker's dream editor, Brevoort hitting up TNC on social media is easily read as a way to take some of the heat of that judgment. I'd be curious to see what Coates wrote tho'; he's clearly knowledgeable in the field
http://www.vulture.com/2015/04/ta-nehisi-coates-superhero-comics.html

The tweet to Coates is from months before Brevoort came under attack. So it should be read as a response to that.

It should NOT be read as a response to that, I meant.

okay, my bad; didn't see the time signature.

it would be dope to see a writer like coates take on the hulk; bring some nuance to the character

Smash or not smash -- that the question:
Better to let puny humans pester Hulk
Or pound puny humans to pulp?
Maybe if Hulk die, Hulk no sleep,
No hurt! But no dream.

was thinking more contemporary but hey why noe

Marvel partisans are weird

Xxxp

RG: In Between the World and Me, you center much of the discussion on the black body. What compelled you to make this rhetorical choice?

TC: There is tendency in academia and in (some) social justice circles to make that which is oppressive distant and abstract. We use a language, which at times obscures what’s going on -– racial discrimination, racial segregation, racial justice, etc. This sort of language eliminates the actual actions of actual people. It was deeply important to me to situate racism as a done thing: as a thing you actually feel. I should add that in my stripe of atheism, it’s very hard to see beyond the body. There is a tendency to adopt euphemism when confronted with the very real violence that comes with having a foot on your neck.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/the-charge-to-be-fair-ta-nehisi-coates-and-roxane-gay-in-conversation

Read it this afternoon. Best book I've read in a loooong time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/644146105786212352

owwwwwwwwww

ziiiiiiiiiiing

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/the-black-family-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/403246/

lol

god that comeback to whitlock is so effortlessly devastating

kapow

have not stopped lolling

boom

A dissenter, published guess where. Has anyone read the Moynihan Report? It's been excerpted so often that I guess I should.

a response: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/thinking-about-crime/406144

ha

now THAT is a zing

haaaaaaaaaaaaa!

i don't get the whitlock thing

If you google Whitlock's name I think you'll get zing pretty quick.

http://deadspin.com/how-jason-whitlock-is-poisoning-espns-black-grantland-1698683962

featuring whitlock's praise of coates, failure to recruit him and absurd failure to even launch

From slave-holding to ethnic cleansing, Christianity has repeatedly been employed to sanctify our most shameful acts. One might counter that Christianity has also been employed to inspire our most honorable acts. But this is a level of complexity that Carson’s ilk do not grant to Islam. To Carson, Islam is terror and nothing else.

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/09/ben-carson-bigot/406390/

Oh BTW

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/books/ta-nehisi-coates-to-write-black-panther-comic-for-marvel.html?_r=0

fuckin A, will buy

(though i maintain it's a little on the nose; really wish they'd sic him on their big gun headliners instead...)

I'm more than slightly guessing this is part of a plan to boost up the character given the next round of movies. Whatever the reasons, all good.

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/646380413808738305

yeah, i think you're right and that they're positioning Black Panther to BECOME a pop mainstream big gun; maybe join the Avengers in the movie version depending on how well the character is received.

xp, lol
translation of that tweet for non-geeks: https://www.reddit.com/r/theblackpanther/comments/2uy0sy/spoilers_namor_got_what_was_coming_to_him/

Good interview with Coates in Paris:

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/be0a6d8c-610e-11e5-9846-de406ccb37f2.html

Whatever the reasons, all good.

Disagree. If TNC really has something to say in the medium, he and it would be better off doing something of his own, rather than servicing IP for a division of Disney that is hostile to creator's rights, and just this month continued its active attack on the direct market with a program of really lame, insulting co-option of 25 years of African-American creativity from a different field.

Let me also note that it's gross (and ill-boding) that none of the reporting on this seems to know whether there's an artist, or if it's Stelfreeze if there is.