Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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people can be assassinated by lightning bolt now huh

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 July 2015 12:51 (ten years ago)

yikes, it's a shame this got published

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2015 12:59 (ten years ago)

if there is any conspiracy afoot here i'd say it was more likely to be an attempt to discredit climate scientists as a group by allowing one of them to go off on one in the media rather than big climate's efforts to bump them off one-by-one with flights of stairs and blots of lightning

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:03 (ten years ago)

No Foreseeable Relief After Iran City Feels Like Exceptional 163° F.

(that's 67.8° C for those in scientifically literate countries)

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:26 (ten years ago)

what the shit :O

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:29 (ten years ago)

terrifying

sleeve, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:33 (ten years ago)

what is this "apparent temperature"? like in actuality it's not 68 degrees as such?

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:41 (ten years ago)

it includes measures of humidity in addition to air temp, i think? so it feels like 68 degrees on the ground, your sweat evapirates at the same rate it would in the apparent temp, that kind of thing

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:44 (ten years ago)

ah so factors like a breeze or whatever

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:45 (ten years ago)

yeah, i think so. can't imagine what standing outdoors in 68 degrees would feel like, jesus christ

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 31 July 2015 14:49 (ten years ago)

it's terrifying - i was in seville last year and it was 42 and felt like a particularly hot 42 as it's inland, and that was unbearable, like you feel kind of ill. it must be really dangerous.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 31 July 2015 14:53 (ten years ago)

maybe the oligarchs will start caring about global warming because it will decrease worker productivity

global tetrahedron, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:30 (ten years ago)

I've been in 45 degrees in summer in Rome and it was close to unbearable, could hardly walk a couple blocks without stopping in the shade for a drink of (warmed by the sun) bottled water.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)

dead workers just harder to motivate

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:42 (ten years ago)

Over summer here in adelaide we regularly now get 2 weeks of 42-46 degree heat and its hell

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Saturday, 1 August 2015 03:24 (ten years ago)

Worker productivity meaningless when robots replace them.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:46 (ten years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/08/03/my-town-calls-my-lawn-a-nuisance-but-i-still-refuse-to-mow-it/

Lovely garden picture.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 23:24 (ten years ago)

“Players like the Saudis, like the Chinese right now, to be honest with you, are trying to water it down so you don’t have a cycle of improvement,” Jennifer Morgan, the global director of the climate program at the World Resources Institute, a research group, told me from her office in Berlin. “And that, I think, is the fight that’s going to be the next three months. Do we get those kernels of integrity in the international agreement or not?”

fascinating (and inevitably depressing) new yorker article about the political manuevring behing climate change negotiations: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/24/the-weight-of-the-world

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 11:43 (ten years ago)

wow - figueres sounds like a great person

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:41 (ten years ago)

great article. i can't imagine how figueres manages to stay sane with that kind of task

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:11 (ten years ago)

elizabeth kolbert is a saint

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)

Except that time she wrote about how Western kids were too spoiled, but that's a different thread.

:wq (Leee), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)

luckily i missed that one but in general her writing on climate, extinction, environmental degradation is so good, so accessible

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:20 (ten years ago)

RM Fanney leans a bit alarmist, but the North Atlantic cold temperature anomaly, combined with the U.S. East coast sea height anomaly, suggests something may be afoot with the Gulf Stream.

Good luck, Europe.

cryptic 'failure of bread' (Sanpaku), Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:46 (ten years ago)

^ If that article is even 80% correct, it's about time to become terrified for real. If the rapid melting off of the world's ice caps is fucking up the ocean currents as much as he indicates, I need to start rethinking our family's contingency plans and our resiliency in the face of a rapidly growing global crisis.

Aimless, Thursday, 27 August 2015 03:40 (ten years ago)

i'm reading too much into this, but for some reason these two stories seemed connected when i saw them on my facebook today. and then i just got depressed.

http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2015/08/24/everything-is-on-fire-and-no-one-cares/

http://screencrush.com/netflix-evolution-of-binge-watching/

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:09 (ten years ago)

i just don't watch my netflix like i used to!

http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/8_26_13_Andrew_Rim_Fire_1050_701_s_c1_c_c.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)

my second thought after reading something like fire story is: i really have to sell my record collection! japan could be underwater in five years! self-preservation rules the day....

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)

OTM, and that was a great article, a friend sent it to me a couple of days ago

sleeve, Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:17 (ten years ago)

This is maybe a weird connection to make, but, there's a scene I often think of by Stephen King, in the early books of the Dark Tower series. One of King's strengths in general, which is key to the success of so much of his creepy New England fiction, is capturing a certain sense of wrongness in familiar landscapes, especially the banal woodsy landscape of temperate North America. He has a real knack for what it is to turn a corner into a particular clearing and it just to feel all wrenched up and unsettled under the surface, somewhere in the dead leaves and the shape of a hollow log. The wildfire story reminds me of that, and particularly this bit in Dark Tower where our heroes, roaming the post-apocalyptic wilderness, come upon a beehive and entertain the notion of some honeycomb with dinner. But:

It was cooler in the shade. The buzzing of the bees was a steady, hypnotic drone. “There are too many,” Roland murmured. “This is late summer; they should be out working. I don’t—“

He caught sight of the hive, bulging tumorously from the hollow of a tree in the center of the clearing, and broke off.

“What’s the matter with them?” Susannah asked in a soft, horrified voice. “Roland, what’s the matter with them?”

A bee, as plump and slow-moving as a horsefly in October, droned past her head. Susannah flinched away from it.

Roland motioned for the others to join them. They did, and stood looking at the hive without speaking. The chambers weren’t neat hexa-gons but random holes of all shapes and sizes; the beehive itself looked queerly melted, as if someone had turned a blowtorch on it. The bees which crawled sluggishly over it were as white as snow.

That scene always gave me the absolute jibblies for reasons that are hard to articulate. But the wildfire article, with the dead flies, the ecosystem palpably out of whack, gets at it I think. While the text of the article might essentialize this a bit, where you can feel it in your bones and so on, but I get why. I posted this last summer: "...things are changing, things have already changed, (and) I better not wait til my golden years to visit the places I grew up, as the landscape I knew will probably be pretty much burned to a crisp and not really trigger the cornucopia of ineffable sense memories one might expect." Feeling wrong-footed in familiar places is not in fact the most serious reason why climate change is a crisis, but it might be the symptom that actually mobilizes wider constituencies, emotionally.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)

it might just be gradual enough for people to grow accustomed to the changes though. juuuuuuust a little hotter every year for decades until people don't know anything else. though raging wildfires all around might not be the most gradual of changes...

but people are already getting used to the ubiquity of "cooling centers" everywhere. not something i grew up with...

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/heat_wave_springfield_repeats.html

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:02 (ten years ago)

it doesn't take long for things to seem normal. is what i'm trying to say. adaptable motherfuckers that we are...

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:03 (ten years ago)

i'm kinda fascinated in how the changing atmosphere is effecting people subconsciously. on a daily basis. what kind of alarm bells are going off in people that we can't see. other than a world-wide obsession with zombies and the end of the world. millenarianism kinda as old as the hills anyway, so, i don't even know how much the zombies and disaster movies mean.

scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)

Yeah, fair point re: gradual change - - - but on the other hand that may just be waiting for someone to hit on the right metaphor/example/rhetorical flourish to snap the timeline back together and heighten the contrast. I'm thinking of Rachel Carson with the idea of a "silent spring," somehow able to make people realize, say, I have heard less birds than when I was a kid, and shit, imagine if you heard no birds at all?!

Maybe we're sort of inured to that type of thing now, or maybe it just seems that way until something happens that crystallizes these feelings. It may be that wholesome nature stuff isn't as central to the American psyche as it once was, given generations of people reared entirely in cul-de-sac conditions. But maybe it's part of the picture. I can imagine that for people who grew up in four-season regions of the country, realizing they might not get snow, or might get an unsettlingly large amount of snow but no fall leaves, could produce a real abiding anxiety where "1-3 inches of sea level rise" or "a winter that lasts a week longer" can't, just sitting there on paper.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:45 (ten years ago)

Presidential candidate and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) sent a letter to President Barack Obama this week asking him to avoid "inserting the divisive political agenda of liberal environmental activism" while commemorating the 10th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

Obama was visiting New Orleans on Thursday to mark 10 years after the disaster.

The letter from Jindal, dated Wednesday, read:

While you and others may be of the opinion that we can legislate away hurricanes with higher taxes, business regulations and EPA power grabs, that is not a view shared by many Louisianians.
I would ask you to respect this important time of remembrance by not inserting the divisive political agenda of liberal environmental activism.

Furthermore, the people of Louisiana have already agreed upon a pragmatic and bipartisan approach to preventing and mitigating the damage of future weather systems.

Jindal, who was a congressman during the storm, wrote a "lecture on climate change" would not improve New Orleans — something residents did themselves.

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:48 (ten years ago)

I live here. Every thing south of I-12 is doomed to become, at best, a scuba destination. Alas, his base was in the bible thumping north of the state.

There's are many reasons Grover Norquist's governor has [a 27% approval](http://www.bestofneworleans.com/gambit/next-to-nothing/Content?oid=2598599) rating in Louisiana. But I reserve a special hatred for just how willfully he has obstructed attempts to save his own state.

cryptic 'failure of bread' (Sanpaku), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:13 (ten years ago)

landrieu deserves eternal damnation as well

1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:15 (ten years ago)

i think i posted this a few years back but i saw it again today and remembered how much i liked it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNb8m9vUkAAAu1A.png:large

1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)

i don't like it :c

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)

hehe, also there's the fact that it's not based off of any data, but i think it illustrates reality pretty accurately

1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:28 (ten years ago)

sickening:

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/welcome-to-beautiful-parkersburg/

scott seward, Friday, 28 August 2015 02:27 (ten years ago)

god damn. thank you for sharing that. just sat and read the whole thing, watched all the videos. fucking devastating.

also incredible journalism. not directly global warming related but probably a must-read, and a reminder just how flagrant and bone-chillingly corporate cover-ups are, still are, like all this happened very recently, is still happening now. not some long-dead villains burying some toxic waste drums in the 50s and 60s. fucking horrifying.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 28 August 2015 03:20 (ten years ago)

2015's El Niño will rival the strongest on record.

Every El Niño brings Sep-Jan drought and forest and peat fires to Indonesia. These have been exacerbated by draining of lands for palm plantations, over peat deposits up to 20 m thick.

During the last big El Niño in 1997, Indonesian peat fires were responsible for 13–40% of global carbon emissions, and were responsible for the largest annual increase in atmospheric CO2 on record. They're the main reason Indonesia is third to China and America in total carbon emissions.

When one considers peatlands

account for 550 Gt carbon worldwide. The majority of the carbon stored in peatlands is in the saturated peat soil that has been sequestered over millennia. In the sub (polar) zone, peatlands contain on average 3.5 times more carbon per hectare than the above-ground ecosystems on mineral soil; in the boreal zone they contain 7 times more and in the humid tropics over 10 times more carbon.

tropical peatlands, and their climatically driven burning, look a lot like the most plausible positive carbon feedback during past interglacials. Delving into this, they're more scary short term than permafrost outgassing and seabed methane hydrates.

cryptic 'failure of bread' (Sanpaku), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:32 (ten years ago)

And for those awaiting the rotten egg scent of past oceanic anoxia / euxinia extinction events:

Purple Waves Puzzle Oregon Coast Scientists, Officials

somewhere between islamic call to prayer and an orgasm (Sanpaku), Saturday, 29 August 2015 00:03 (ten years ago)

She photographed these examples of the stuff in Neskowin on August 15.

I was in Neskowin, Oregon on August 18-21 and saw nothing like this. Not sure if I should be sad or happy about that.

Aimless, Saturday, 29 August 2015 00:20 (ten years ago)

Given no one was falling over dead from hydrogen sulfide, you missed an opportunity to witness a purple sulfur bacteria bloom, of the sort which played a major role during the late-Devonian, end-Permian, and end-Triassic mass extinctions, as well as the Cenomanian–Turonian, Aptian and Toarcian ocean anoxic events.

Usually, purple sulfur bacteria blooms are only visible in the Black Sea and off Namibia, so its pretty cool (horrific!) that it only took one year's warm blob to see photic zone euxinia off American shores.

somewhere between islamic call to prayer and an orgasm (Sanpaku), Saturday, 29 August 2015 04:52 (ten years ago)

No one else may care, but that end-Triassic link should go here.

somewhere between islamic call to prayer and an orgasm (Sanpaku), Saturday, 29 August 2015 04:58 (ten years ago)

I read your link on purple sulfur bacteria and agree that having it show up in the water along the Oregon coastline is pretty horrific. The pace of climate change seems to me to be accelerating rapidly, looking at both the pace at which new weather records are being set in the past year and the margins by which those new records are eclipsing the old ones.

Aimless, Saturday, 29 August 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)

frankly, i avoid the numbers as much as possible. because every story i read about these things, every set of facts i come across, corrodes my sanity (which was never that great to begin with) more and more. and i don't think it's just me. given the choice between madness, ignorance, and denial, i guess i'll go for ignorance.

rushomancy, Saturday, 29 August 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

i think that's the decision that most people make, whether they say it or not

1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Saturday, 29 August 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)


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