Is this the last Craig Bond?
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
In that the series has never had quite this specific an arc
closest thing was probably you only live twice/ohmss/diamonds, shame about the bookends there
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Casino Royale is the one I remember the most about, though not much, and it's been the one I haven't seen for the longest. QoS and Skyfall were exciting in the theater, but I remember almost nothing.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
casino royale might as well be 'bullitt' considering how relatively stripped down it is, though the final act has a fair chunk of padding to say the least. Good padding imo but still...
― nomar, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
is it worth seeing '.. Solace' if you loved the 2 slices of Bond-bread either side? it got such a kicking that i never bothered.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
CR is still easily the best Bond i've ever seen.
QoS is the least essential of the Craig Bond films.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
I think he signed up for two more, so next to last. (Unless it's extended after that -- could be, Roger Moore's run remains the longest at 8 films/12 years and Craig's currently at 4 films/9 years with one more to come, so who knows?)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
And yet oddly Spectre is clearly playing on the fact that the escape of the Mr. White character in QoS is a key part of the whole thing; it's been an element of both trailers now. I wonder how much if any direct flashback/explanation they're going to put into the film.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
QoS I just thought was bad in kind of a boring way, but Skyfall I really hated. My reflexive disgust for the Mendesian pomposity of it was a major contributing factor though I'll admit
― Number None, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
i'd said it elsewhere but i think skyfall, for all its really impressive staging, really diminishes the more you think about it. not just for the gross sexual politics and the half-hearted winks at bond tropes but for the actual stupidity of the characters, and of course the blandness and unoriginality of silva as a villain (in terms of persona, motivation, and execution of his goals) that is only masked by bardem being an incredible actor.
― nomar, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
I didn't mind QoS - it is pretty humourless and brutal, though, and not the traditional kind of crowd-pleasing Bond film. It's Craig's Licence to Kill or For Your Eyes Only, if you like - both of which I have a soft spot for, so. Personally, I thought it looked better than the over-praised Skyfall, too.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
you want Skyfall remake? we got Skyfall remake!
pretty blatantly On Her Majesty's Secret Service remake, down to the quotes from the original score in this one
― regret it? nope. reddit? yep. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link
I've said it before, but the plot of Skyfall is completely nonsensical once you think about it, it's all just an excuse to show pretty locales and cool pictures. Which of course makes it the best Bond in a loooong time. QoS is pretty forgettable, but the scene at the opera is great as mentioned upthread. Especially because Mr White is the only one with the cool to simply stay and slip away with the rest of the audience. Mr White is so amazing, and I only partly say that because I'm such a big fan of Jesper Christensen.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 July 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
I think I love the fact that nothing in Skyfall makes sense. Most action films just have plotholes. Skyfall really is one of those rare films that just don't care.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 July 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link
I bet you're a Prometheus fan
― Number None, Thursday, 23 July 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link
I've actually just dvr'ed it. But from what I've seen of it, clips and trailers and such, I think it's ugly. I mean, the point of Skyfall is that it discards plot to focus on imagery.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 July 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link
Well Sam Smith's done the theme tune and it's bloody awful.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 25 September 2015 08:38 (eight years ago) link
I don't care for Sam Smith but a Bond 'I Will Survive' kinda works.
― abcfsk, Friday, 25 September 2015 09:02 (eight years ago) link
Really doesn't imo.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 25 September 2015 10:00 (eight years ago) link
I'm not really into Sam Smith, but this seems very dull.
― Mark G, Friday, 25 September 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link
It's crap.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Saturday, 26 September 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link
was lana del rey in a tunnel when they called
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 26 September 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link
annoying to have this a spotify only release (for what, like a week?) end these stupid streaming service wars
shit song
I know Smith's voice is held in high regard but on this one it's plain annoying, maybe song could have been salvaged if George Michael sang it
― niels, Saturday, 26 September 2015 08:44 (eight years ago) link
i like this, i expected it to be awful after everyone's griping.
― piscesx, Saturday, 26 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah seriously. using someone else for a bond song in a world where ldr exists is like shaving with a spoon.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Saturday, 26 September 2015 09:52 (eight years ago) link
can't believe they never used Goldfrapp at her peak either.
― piscesx, Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link
The answer for "What is the worst Bond theme?" will always be the Jack White and Alicia Keys one.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 27 September 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link
^^^^^^ on this.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 27 September 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link
Listening to it again, the main hook ("how do i live, how do i etc.") is pretty good. Shame about the rest.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Sunday, 27 September 2015 08:41 (eight years ago) link
"can't believe they never used Goldfrapp at her peak either."
Only 3 movies released during that era, and they went with the charts on 2 of them.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Sunday, 27 September 2015 08:50 (eight years ago) link
I don't mind the White/Keys one but didn't it follow one by Chris Cornell of all people? Even if it was tolerable, why the hell would you call him?
― μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 27 September 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
for a gritty reboot.... of the theme song
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 27 September 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
UK tabloids running that Damian Lewis is likely next in line, which I reaaaalllly hope isn't the case.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 27 September 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
I think he should die in this new one.
― nashwan, Sunday, 27 September 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
I never used to like the Cornell theme but I think it was bc I wasnt into the movie at first
I've warmed up to it now that I enjoy the movie more
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 September 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link
I like the movie quite a bit and that theme is ok, but why is Chris Cornell singing it
I will always give a partial pass if the band/singer is from the UK, at least.
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link
"And with your newest Bond theme song, Mumford and Sons."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link
you know my naaaaaaaaaaaaaame
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
special place in hell for you on that one, Ned
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
Given that the greatest heights to which the theme songs have ever risen is Indelible Kitsch, perhaps never an occasion for gnashing of teeth.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link
like really, how high was Anthony Newley when he wrote those "Goldfinger" lyrics?
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
have we polled best Bond theme on ILM? probably a shitshow like all song polls, but maybe an entertaining one
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
the man with the midas touch, the spider's touch? xp
:)
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
ok now I'm listening to the "A View to a Kill" theme
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
She could totally still do it!
Cornell makes sense to me, a classic rock bellower and the song is pretty good. I'm a Soundgarden fan, mind you.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
such a COLDfinger
always wakes me right up
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link
omg I forgot that line
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link
It'll be interesting to see how much SPECTRE sticks to the semi-plausible villain schemes of the Craig films.
So far we've had:Casino Royale: off-screen puppetmasters implied, but the main plot is about the money man for international criminal enterprise (plausible), it's personal for Bond in that he falls in loveQuantum of Solace: leads in from last film, group of villains is introduced and main plot is about manipulating the water market in south america for profit (semi-plausible, maybe boring?). Ties up Bond's love dying.Skyfall: detours from vast conspiracy to have a one-off villain that is a magical global hacker type (very of the moment, much less plausible). Personal for Bond in that it ruminates too long on his "family" (dead parents, surrogate mother in M). SPECTRE: who even knows the real plot yet, trailers seem to be all about secret group behind all villain groups who are VERY PERSONAL to Bond. Maybe a plausible threat to counter that?
The movies always veered away from any realism to give giant secret bases (esp in late Connery/Moore films) but the scope of things probably hit the top ridiculous point in "A View to a Kill" when a _single_ evil capitalist was going to sink part of California... to corner the microchip market!
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link
which probably means the new film is going to jump all sharks and have Bond's long-lost cousin/brother/bff nuke scotland off the map to kill one man (Bond, naturally)
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
tbf I tuned out completely and started internetting before the end of the desert hideout torture scene stuff, maybe everything after “Bond and Blofeld are brothers” is rly good
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link
btw if anyone’s in this thread bcz they’re working up to NTTD, the best parts are totally the imax scenes so it’s worth catching in that format if you have the choice
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
Thanks, Ned.
QoS is a mess but … underrated, even by me sometimes.
Tomorrow: NTTD!
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 October 2021 08:26 (two years ago) link
huh just checked and it looks like craig is the longest-running bond thus far? (time-wise, not in total number of movies). fifteen years!
― gbx, Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
dude has definitely done his timei wondered to mr veg if he’ll throw a party when his official post-release duties are completed. i mean as we know from prev bonds, money-truck aside, it’s one hell of a gulag
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
He filmed TWO Benoit Blanc flicks in between making No Time To Die and having to promote it on release
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
Damn.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 October 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
More later, but best since CR.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 October 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
I would very much like a post-apocalyptic HBO show set in the, uh, island lair
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 October 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
yes plz
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
#onethread?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 16 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
we are only allowed to talk about spectre in this thread, #spectrethoughtsonly
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
Radiohead got robbed
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
fukunaga did an amazing job, whole thing looked amazing and was super varied in terms of color lighting
rami malek was terrible. not remotely scary, idiotic accent, everything he said was so groanworthy pretentious and vacuous (even by Bond villain standards), also for some reason his skin condition improved throughout the movie? by the end it just looked like mild acne scars
léa seydoux is insanely beautiful and every moment she was on screen i was jaw agog. however daniel craig and ana de armas have the best chemistry, wish she was in it more. havana scene was so fun
plot was so dumb. when ralph fiennes is like “we didn’t mean for this bio chemical weapon capable of exterminating entire races of people to become a WMD” lol
overall i loved it. i think italy was my favourite action setpiece (i was hooting and hollering in the movie theatre when he started motorcycling up stairs and flying over bridges) but they were all very entertaining
― flopson, Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
Lol at his name being Lyutsifer Safin
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
i haven’t seen it since it was in theatres and was really high when i saw it so this might be totally inaccurate but i remember the action in quAntum being peak shaky cam era disorienting blurry close combat. and i am grateful of how far we are from that now. loved the scene at the end on the stairwell (the shadow!). felt kinda like a first person shooter
― flopson, Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
I just watched it and yes, it was def like that
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
quantum’s lone flaw for me is the action directing
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link
everything else about that movie rules tho
fyi flopson there is a No Time To Die thread, you'll find more discussion there! which also, some of us are consciously avoiding until we've gotten to the film.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
oh sorry i looked through SNA but didn’t see it so i figured ppl were just talking here. if a mod wants to delete it that’s ok. sorry for spoilers
― flopson, Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link
you're all good! i pulled my eyes away once I registered the type of information the post contained, but before any of it actually reached my brain lol
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link