bennies are v helpful for diagnosing and treating what the hell is wrong with gawker dudes
― an asteroid could hit the planet (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 01:49 (ten years ago)
annnnd this thread is rapidly turning into grotesque parody of the abyss into which it has for too long stared, I'm out, thanks again to darraghmac for providing the capsule version (which I was for so long asking, to no avail)
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 01:51 (ten years ago)
oh god never even thought about the bennies. what an oversight!
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 01:52 (ten years ago)
i thought ours was the adderall generation
― Treeship, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 01:53 (ten years ago)
What kind of suite did Max have
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:12 (ten years ago)
wow good for max
― balls, Monday, July 20, 2015 9:43 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes balls, max, a cfo at conde nast who attempted to hire a hooker and fly that hooker to vegas, was swimming in cash. #peoplewhoknowhowtolive
i'm glad we all now agree it was heroic of nick denton to expose him.
(the reason the term c-suite is around btw is basically that these people traditionally have their own suite of offices that nobody else can go into and these offices look nothing like the other offices, and the people in these offices mainly only talk to other people in these offices, or people who don't get to be in these offices but must visit these offices to report to the people who do. and these people have special people they hire to arrange conversations if necessary to others who they wouldn't normally talk to, because they won't even talk to you without a rep present to translate if you are a few too many reporting levels down. just in case anybody is actually baffled by 'the white collar world: how it work')
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:33 (ten years ago)
sorry if caring about this shit went out with occupy.
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:34 (ten years ago)
i.e. 'i'm too important to take a meeting w/ you' ppl
― j., Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:35 (ten years ago)
- THAT'S WHERE I COME IN
― balls, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:37 (ten years ago)
xp and therefore this is a worthwhile story to report because.......(I feel like you are on the verge of the punchline here)
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:39 (ten years ago)
^^^ obviously cares not a whit abt class struggle
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:41 (ten years ago)
look i'm all for the downfall of the obscenely wealthy, i just don't think repessive sexual mores should be brought to bear towards that end. extramarital, gay, & sex work are the triumverate of cardinal sins here, but who cares and why should they?? hail satan.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:48 (ten years ago)
class warfare tactics should only target individuals who are abusing their power and privilege. it shouldn't target rich people for reasons that have nothing to do with their position.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:51 (ten years ago)
imo
no treeship, they're perverts you see, we obviously need to mount their bollocks on pikes
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:53 (ten years ago)
And there it is.
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:54 (ten years ago)
There are hundreds if not thousands of high-priced prostitutes in New York City. Guess who hires them: rich people. I'm sure you could easily find another three or four dozen "scoops" on random rich people who have hired prostitutes with minimal effort, if that's really such a laudable goal.
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:56 (ten years ago)
let's allow moral panic to drive the revolution, though, that'll be really liberating for everyone
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:59 (ten years ago)
If you can, I'm sure the Post will pay...
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:00 (ten years ago)
but it's brave tho if they are sleeping with media robber barons who are enemies of another media robber baron (who seems to think every other person at his level is the enemy, as do his staffers), those are the ppl really the ones destroying the middle class and systematically raping the poor
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:01 (ten years ago)
(xxxp)
*the ppl really destroying
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:02 (ten years ago)
I'm not defending the story as important or necessary. I'm just not going to defend this guy as a 'an anonymous innocent'.
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:03 (ten years ago)
To be fair the New Yorker probably does pacify a potentially revolutionary segment of the bourgoisie with its soporific quasi-liberal rambles.
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:03 (ten years ago)
Basically i think denton finally realized he actually does have more in common with geithner than his employees..
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:05 (ten years ago)
Meaning a small shred of human dignity?
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:07 (ten years ago)
gee ya think xphttp://www.thesquander.com/gawkers-ceo-nick-dentons-net-worth/
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:07 (ten years ago)
holy mackerel
― Treeship, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:11 (ten years ago)
those figures seem pretty dubious
― iatee, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:12 (ten years ago)
what are you talking about iatee, they're on the internet
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:12 (ten years ago)
whether geithner is an innocent or not, the original post targeted him for his sexual misconduct & no other misdeed, as far as gawker was concerned that was enough to merit publication. that and, how convenient! he worked for a direct competitor & rival of gawker media. if you want to pretend the tactic of outing people is fair game and playing to an audience's prurient scorn is without consquences or wider repurcussions then good luck and god bless
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:13 (ten years ago)
I'd hazard a guess many of his employees ain't exactly in the struggle. just sayin. not that they're rich, necessarily - no idea what gawker salaries are bc they only expose their sworn blood enemies' shit salaries (vice) - but something tells me truth to power w/the intent of damning the rich is not the real motivation. and it doesn't have to be, really, if they own that they are a tabloid with flashes of greatness, but be honest u know
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:13 (ten years ago)
to be totally fair I think craggs basically has owned and sort of reveled in the essential tabloid nature of the site in public before now (and is definitely doing so now) but idk if the average writer there is capable of owning that they're m/l freddie lounds
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:16 (ten years ago)
replace the victim of your article with "French Stewart." if your article is now more interesting, do not publish!
― an asteroid could hit the planet (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:28 (ten years ago)
many xposts to goole
i guess what i was trying to get at is: e.g. gawker publishes a story about idk a repubican candidate who is anti lgbqt and is caugth hiring a male sex worker, and an a bunch of advertisers demand gawker pulls the story or they'll pull their advertising; then imagine that the readership is very pro this article (and the advertisers make no money if a site publishes stories the majority think are disgusting), but gawker pulls the story and the readership revolts and stops reading gawker. that is a fucked up situation bc you all make money - the publisher and the advertisers - if you have a good readership.
then you have this situation where gawker published an article that was not newsworthy and can also be read as having shades of gay-shaming, and the readership revolts against the article. since they are the reason gawker and its advertisers make money, why WOULDNT you take it down? that's the practical side. then there's the moral or ethical side, or human decency issue of why would you publish something that is basically just spiteful and humiliating to the subject, for no apparent reason?
tl;dr the readers are the customer because the publisher is trying to sell something to the advertisers and the advertisers are trying to sell something to the reader.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:30 (ten years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Denton#Life_and_career
Denton was featured in the Sunday Times Rich List 2007 in position #502 with an estimated wealth of £140m (approximately $290m) based on the sale of his previous companies and the current value of Gawker Media.
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:32 (ten years ago)
I mean even if not reliable, maybe he's only worth eight figures? Doesn't that very possibly make him richer than the CFO of Conde Nast and does it even matter at that point?
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:33 (ten years ago)
and these people have special people they hire to arrange conversations if necessary to others who they wouldn't normally talk to, because they won't even talk to you without a rep present to translate if you are a few too many reporting levels down. just in case anybody is actually baffled by 'the white collar world: how it work')
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:33 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I am hopping mad over here, let's tear this shit down
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:34 (ten years ago)
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:33 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but it's easy to get into Denton's office suite!!
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:35 (ten years ago)
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, July 20, 2015 10:34 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
#WEWANTAMEETING
― five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:35 (ten years ago)
tbh I figure the Gawker business model was built around paying their people peanuts. 60% of the main Gawker page was reposting things from Facebook and Reddit, 30% was commenting on other places that repost stuff from Facebook and Reddit and 10% (maaaaybe) something resembling journalism.
People like Max and Jordan are essentially replaceable cogs - if Gawker skips a beat from here on out it will be because management is redefining their standards and it will take a minute for everyone to fall in line.
The Jalopnik guys maybe do the most 'reporting,' insofar as they drive cars and review them like normal automotive journalists.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:47 (ten years ago)
Otm
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:50 (ten years ago)
max prob made six figs
― flopson, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:02 (ten years ago)
ban cars
― chinavision!, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:03 (ten years ago)
/max
― flopson, Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:02 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eesh, you can barely make a salad with that few. coulda at least thrown in some blue cheese and maybe some pistachios
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:08 (ten years ago)
max is dumb to have quit imo, despite being maybe a cult and widely hated gawker seems like a pretty fun place to work
'class war' seems kind of juvenile as justification for going after well-paid bean counters. best justification of gawker's existence imo is that a thoroughly despicable press is a symptom of a healthy democracy
― flopson, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:09 (ten years ago)
One thing I learned is these gawker bros used way too many chat clients! Slack, gchat, yik yak, zim zam! Jeeze!
― Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:10 (ten years ago)
"well-paid bean counters"
this is the reason i keep posting.
people literally have no idea what a CFO does.
coming around to maybe we need less gossip journalism and more vox explainers on wtf companies are and how they work.
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:10 (ten years ago)
you do not count the money. you are responsible for the money. and all the things that are worth money, by virtue of them being worth money. and all the places the money is spent, which is all the people. you have say over it all, subject to overall direction of the CEO and board.
because corporations are about money, this is a very important post.
― where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:13 (ten years ago)