hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

maybe they can team up with julian assange. or nikki finke.

xpost the post so nice you made it twice

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honestly flattered you remembered a reference i made three days ago, whiney

That Trotter piece is worth reading.

honestly flattered you remembered a reference i made three days ago, whiney

― da croupier, Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every ilx generation gets the pussy buffet it deserves

"Editorial independence" is as vacuous a concept as "academic freedom"

oh i'm not that tasty, whiney

If any of you are worried, please don’t be. This is a brief storm that Nick’s shortsightedness has extended. By the end of next week it will be a vague memory.

LOL

http://nick.kinja.com/to-all-of-edit-at-gawker-media-1719034987

great, honking prodigies of journalism

Miley Cyrus Makes Out With and Possibly Fingers Victoria's Secret Model

stories that inspire pride

At 1pm, Heather and I will come to the 4th Floor to take questions and criticism from New York editors and writers.

lol

Miley Cyrus Makes Out With and Possibly Fingers Victoria's Secret Model

stories that inspire pride

― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

[glows]

And some humane guidelines are needed — in writing — on the calculus of cruelty and benefit in running a story. Everybody has a private life, even a C-level executive, at least unless they blab about it. We do not seek to expose every personal secret — only those that reveal something interesting. And the more vulnerable the person hurt, the more important the story had better be.

Resigning in a huff protest is one of the privileges of a "career" in journalism. I did it once, when the weekly local paper I edited ran some church's ad asking its parishioners to come in that Sunday to "pray for an end to the plague of homosexuality." (This was in suburban NJ.) It's good to get it out of the way in your 20s if possible, though, and if you do it more than once, people start to pay attention.

Oof
x-post

if we can relegate one thing to the other side of the line, we can sell the illusion that the line exists

This is a company built on stories: from the very first gadget recommendation on Gizmodo in 2002; through to the Tom Cruise video that marked a newsier Gawker in 2008; the iPhone 4 story that made Gizmodo and broke its staff in 2010; to the heyday of the sensational scoop in 2013, when Gawker and Deadspin revealed both Rob Ford and Manti Teo in their lurid glory.

the sudden throw back to gizmodo made me flash on "1969 - Man walks on the moon. 1971 - Man walks on the moon... again."

a newsier, woozier gawker

Miley Cyrus Makes Out With and Possibly Fingers Victoria's Secret Model

― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:16 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i clicked

― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:18 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's wrong with that headline? miley cyrus made out with a victoria's secret model and possibly fingered her. it states what happens in the video.

― J0rdan S., Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:19 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the possible fingering doesn't happen in the video, it happens in you

― j., Thursday, July 2, 2015 5:24 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's wrong with that headline is that it seems a completely insane and repugnant thing to report as news

― back once again with the panel behaviour (sic), Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:30 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why

― J0rdan S., Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:31 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still love Whiney's 'i clicked'

if we can relegate one thing to the other side of the line, we can sell the illusion that the line exists

― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, July 20, 2015 12:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm and v well put

still stand behind that story, and Jordan’s reporting, absolutely. It was always going to land poorly with the army of Gamergaters and Redditors, and with the Twitter squad of smarmy media enemies we’ve made over the last 10 years, both groups of which are desperate for our collapse. To the extent that it failed to land with the people who are generally sympathetic to us—people we like and respect—I, and only I, should have protected us better, and I would have and will talk and think harder about how we assign, approach, edit, and package those stories. But that’s all we’re obligated to do: Listen to people we respect, and try to do better next time.

This is saying a lot of nothing.

and with the Twitter squad of smarmy media enemies we’ve made over the last 10 years, both groups of which are desperate for our collapse.

hilarious

what's that from?

The mission statement that justified this story is psychopathic. I don't think that means everyone involved with the reporting is a psychopath but it is troubling that even after all this blowback no one at Gawker has realized that the story itself is the problem, not a failure to protect the writer better. Balancing ppl's privacy against public interest is really the least a journalist can do to honor the ethics of their profession. Ace in the Hole wasn't supposed to be aspirational.

even after all this blowback no one at Gawker has realized that the story itself is the problem, not a failure to protect the writer better...

I... don't get that impression?

The Managing Partnership as a whole is responsible for the Company’s management and direction, but they do not and should not make editorial decisions. Let me be clear. This was a decision I made as Founder and Publisher — and guardian of the company mission — and the majority supported me in that decision.

so he's basically saying he gets 5 votes. lol

damn from his tone you'd think max was going to declare himself editor-for-life in a coup, not resign. SOON THIS WILL ALL BE A MEMORY, IGNORE THE INFIDELS

That's the impression I get. Has anyone said anything like "hurting someone for no reason is wrong and we apologize"?

Nope.

what's that from?

― flopson, Monday, July 20, 2015 12:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

read's farewell thing

oh god this really really is the hill they're choosing to die on, good lord

was there NO other instance where they could've protested over editorial independence? have to say that if this is the first case where editorial independence is being fucked with that...seems like a positive, overall

maybe they can go to slugline

also it's just making it worse bc we've moved from "an individual fuck-up" to "this sort of thing is part of the fabric of our institution and office culture"

Like the problem isn't that max failed to package the story correctly. The problem is that no one stopped to think that they might have a responsibility not to hurt someone unless there was a public interest in doing so. This isn't even industry standards but acting like a decent human.

"I learned it from watching you, dad! I learned it from watching you! And if you won't let me keep drugs in the house, I'm leaving the house! Drugs are what this family was built on!"

This isn't even industry standards but acting like a decent human.

The email praises staffers for being "mean"

Massive lol at "(It would be nice if this—both the letter itself and the information it contains—was kept between all of us and not leaked anywhere.)" appearing in a story on Gawker, on Gawker.

Failed to land

Yeah I noticed that- it's sicker than I imagined honestly. Like finding out that relevant ilxors are just complicit with gawker grossness but turn out to be the main drivers of that ideology. xxp

Jordan reported out a true and interesting story that stands well within the site’s long tradition of aggressively reporting on the sex and personal lives of powerful media figures, and I—and Tommy—still stand behind that story, and Jordan’s reporting, absolutely.

Still not getting it then. I agree with the principle that Max resigned over, re: the editorial/advertising firewall, and his admirable loyalty to his writers, but to do it over this crappy story is sad to me.

But then I scrolled back through this thread and every single one of Jordan's posts is doubling down in response to criticism. I guess the Gawker mentality is so entrenched that they really can't grasp why they've pissed people off (and not the evil Gamergate/Reddit/elite foes) or accept the possibility, even once, that they may have misjudged the line.

social media really engenders cliqueiness and toeing the party line among media companies, i've noticed. like not just here and over more unobjectionable things but pretty much every time a journalist gets a job at a new company *everything* they link and big up will emanate from that company

Doesn't social media do that with everybody? You get into your bunker with your team and resist all criticism. That's why Twitter arguments are usually lousy. This is the same thing but with pay checks.

Like the problem isn't that max failed to package the story correctly. The problem is that no one stopped to think that they might have a responsibility not to hurt someone unless there was a public interest in doing so. This isn't even industry standards but acting like a decent human.

― Mordy, Monday, July 20, 2015 1:00 PM (8 minutes ago)

by all accounts, there was strong internal disagreement over whether to publish

But the ppl pushing for it are the ones from our community!

lol: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/18/the-ten-most-heinously-unpleasant-gawker-writers-ranked/

let us never forget that milo is worse than everyfuckingone put together

A proud day for ILX *wipes tear from eye* (xp)

Tommy and Max are clearly the ones who swatted back anyone advising them internally not to publish this story in the first place, so it's good that they're gone and most surprising that they weren't canned before they could pompously resign.