hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

the outing/adultery police stuff is gross, everyone itt (except...whiney) agrees with that.

nah, i agree w/ that too

Most people probably couldn't tell you who Tim Geithner is, much less David. This is basically on the same level as picking out a name at random from a phone book and airing all his dirty laundry.

picking out a name from the conde nast directory, surely

i agree that the sanctity of marriage/caring about the wives defense is gross. esp as a defense of an article that mentions his wife ONCE

i apologize for calling you weird kevin k and im virtually shaking your hand

Yeah, "most people" maybe. But for people who actually read the news he was one of the higher-profile figures in the economic meltdown. Like, people do listen to NPR and shit.

Most people probably couldn't tell you who Tim Geithner is, much less David. This is basically on the same level as picking out a name at random from a phone book and airing all his dirty laundry.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, July 17, 2015 12:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe that's the next frontier of new media

curious how other queer ppl at gawker are taking this

Also there are people on this board more famous than Mr. Geithner. I see no reason why they should feel safe posting personal stuff on here or even 77, just saying

― Treeship, Friday, July 17, 2015 5:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean... they absolutely shouldn't

not just cause of amoral hacks, there are all sorts of scumbags around & a few not-at-all-famous posters have had problems related to this in the past

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/17/max-reads-justification-gawkers-incomparably-vile-article/

boxall, treeship, wins otm

I have my own antagonistic feelings about Greenwald, but he's 100% otm here.

totes

i wonder if ppl are combing ilx archives looking for something on either jord or max

I luxuriated in the thread where Chaki busts out the 'milquetoast kiss ass' slur. It's on The Church; happy reading everyone!

Part of me feels bad for J0rdan. He's always "pushed it" even by gawker's standards and clearly was encouraged to do this, and convinced by gawker's editors that invasions of this kind were a normal thing for journalists to do. Now he's crossed the line and even gawker writers are distancing themselves from the piece.

He's an adult of course and ultimately has pursued this life and is responsible for what he's published, but still.

Had pretty much this exact thought this morning.

― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, July 17, 2015 4:25 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ditto

im sorry if im irrational or coming off self righteous itt. it's upsetting and a reality shock that... people i've interacted with for years even on a tiny scale, that post on ilx, can pull this kind of stuff and my stomach is turning and my heart physically hurts and the world is shit.

jordan will be fine

Beyond all that, Gawker has an ongoing war with Reddit, owned by the magazine company for which the CFO works, which suggests this is part of some petty, vindictive drive for vengeance, with the CFO as collateral damage.

not that reddit doesn't deserve to be attacked for maaaaaaany fuckin reasons, but that g.g. point is otm in laying bare the what seems like the motivation for many gawker media exposes

Outing the CFO of their parent company will, I'm sure, have an earth-shattering effect on Reddit.

xxxps I don't think anyone needs to pretend JS is an innocent naif led astray - he's clearly known what his role was at Gawker and who he had to be to get the job. He deserves zero sympathy.

i think the weirdest thing to me about all of this is that the escort was stupid enough to think that geithner would (or even COULD) help him with his lawsuit, and even moreso stupid enough to try to play that hand before they'd even met up. like, as a shady plot it's just bizarre to watch a writer try to explain.

feel like all the beefs between these new media robber barons should maybe be settled through some sort of bracketed MMA tournament or something, i mean these ppl would prob rather kick each other repeatedly in various sensitive areas than post really good kinja (or insert your comparable blog format here) about each other given the chance

the escort v clearly has major mental health concerns

Another (v small, in comparison to everything else ) problem is that the article is really badly put together

xxp AMA tournament

xpost It sounds like the escort is mentally ill, so I don't really expect his role in this to make much sense.

The hogan one was positioned as an exploration of the online sextape phenomenon, this one's kind of breathlessly thrown together without any larger goal

xpost yah he's like preparing for the race war and is a 911 truther so...

too much time on ilx

is anyone really surprised that jordan would write something so disgusting? He's always been a nasty piece of shit.

can't quite parse the franco angle but the lawson tweet is interesting at least

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-womack/james-franco-gawker_b_7816032.html

xxxxp could have used an editor that's for sure

When the escort discovered the real-life identity of his prospective client – he’s the brother of a former top Obama official – he began blackmailing the CFO by threatening to expose him unless he used his political connections to help the escort in a housing discrimination case he had against a former landlord. Gawker completed the final step of the blackmail plot by publishing the text messages between the two and investigating and confirming the identity of the client, all while protecting the identity of the blackmailing escort

I'm still having trouble understanding the blackmail scheme. The first mention in the story of going to the press is this: "This afternoon, Ryan reached out to Geithner, because he felt Geithner deserved to know that he had gone to the press." I thought that in blackmail, you were supposed to threaten first, and then do it. At what point does he tell Geithner that he's *going* to go to the press unless Geithner helps him? Taking the story at face value, it reads more like an odd kind of revenge: you didn't help me, so I'm not going to feel bad about exploiting this situation to get my case mentioned on Gawker. I can fully believe that it was blackmail, but this part of the story is rather obscure and it's hard to tell for sure.

if we can hold off on diagnosing the sex worker that'd be cool

is anyone really surprised that jordan would write something so disgusting? He's always been a nasty piece of shit.

― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, July 17, 2015 12:58 PM

damn son

nah jordan's a prince. i think working on the really trashy gossip side of things skews, churning out the stuff at a fast clip, you have to be pretty hard-nosed and cynical and perspective goes out the window. i don't he or max realized at the time what a huge fuckup it was

where is lag∞n

yeah i'm comfortable calling a stranger dumb but nothing about their brain beyond that without a doctor's note (xp)

his annual spirit quest ? xp

The article stated that the escort was suffering from PTSD, by his own admission. Maybe 'mentally ill' isn't quite correct, but it seems fair to say he's suffering from a mental health condition.

was wondering that myself xxxp

Maybe whether it was an ongoing extortion would depend on whether the escort thought he was still capable of stopping Gawker from publishing if Geithner, once made aware of their involvement, agreed to make some phone calls on the escort's behalf. That would have been a smart decision, because it's at least possible the story could have still developed into something closer to actual corruption or at least malfeasance involving a government employee. But while the escort claims Geithner belatedly acquiesced, there isn't even a screenshot as proof - given everything else about the story, why should anyone believe that he did?

That's why it was interesting to me that when defending the story in a private email to another journalist, max added one thing to the defense he made on Twitter (the one Greenwald and others demolished) - he personally vouched for Geithner's agreement in the scheme.

look no need to defend armchair diagnosing the guy... let's just not do it. his past does come into question as to why jordan thought it was a good idea to work with him though and the whole "they didnt realize it was this much of a fuck up!" thing speaks to their entitlement.

damn son

― (•̪●) (carne asada),

he's never been shy about his hatred of me and given me abuse. Karma.

unfair imo

i just mean, the mental state of the source isn't relevant tho, the article shouldn't have been published whether he was functional & lucid or floridly schizophrenic

i don't he or max realized at the time what a huge fuckup it was

― flopson, Friday, July 17, 2015 6:06 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or, apparently, now

you're right, ps. just another "wtf were you thinking" aspect to the whole thing to pile on the rest.