chaki would you give that angle a rest thanks
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)
yeah i saw that, i meant that after some initial tweets yesterday he'd gone uncharacteristically silent (xp)
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)
no fuck you.
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)
like idgaf about hulk hogan but recklessly outing ppl is gonna hit closer to home for way more people xp
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)
HERE's why you should still interact with me on this message board. Don't feel weird
it is true that you should not personally trust journalists in general, especially when you only 'know' their information-gathering asses via your public posts on an interweb message board
their interests are opposed to yours
― j., Friday, 17 July 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)
like stop trying to silence how gross this all is from that VERY REAL perspective. sorry this isnt all poshboy inside jokes. take that shit to the londontown laugh factory imo. and since it hasn't been posted yet, check out jordan's "source" on this story.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKF7KmXVAAQI6c7.png:large
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:09 (ten years ago)
I hope my ILTMI booty-eating confession doesn't come back to haunt me.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)
this is so sordid it's not even fun to rail against.
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)
Also there are people on this board more famous than Mr. Geithner. I see no reason why they should feel safe posting personal stuff on here or even 77, just saying
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
i'm with chaki here tbh, how do you present yourself as a progressive media outlet one minute and tar & feather people with conservative morality the next? it's pretty twisted
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
It's a pretty solid angle! The grossness here is not confined to "This is media inside baseball".
xxp ironically the Londontown laugh factory is pretty gritty.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, July 17, 2015 12:12 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the outing/adultery police stuff is gross, everyone itt (except...whiney) agrees with that. chaki seemed to be (repeatedly) pushing a very narrow sort of outrage on behalf of people in open marriages that i have a hard time believing represents that communities views on the matter
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:16 (ten years ago)
community's
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)
not hard to believe that a rich power player has an understanding w/ his spouse where he gets everything he wants i dunno but on the other hand common sense seems to say you don't really know shit about other people's marriages so
― j., Friday, 17 July 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)
he outing/adultery police stuff is gross, everyone itt (except...whiney) agrees with that. chaki seemed to be (repeatedly) pushing a very narrow sort of outrage on behalf of people in open marriages that i have a hard time believing represents that communities views on the matter
i absolutely am not. this has nothing to do with people in open marriage. i am upset at this outward homophobia and max in particular thinking this is cool, him being a straight white guy in a position of power. you are being so weird and obtuse about this.
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:21 (ten years ago)
Chaki otm
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:22 (ten years ago)
exactly, this guy wasn't a public official or celebrity standing up for any sort of sexual morality so maybe don't drag him through the mud for perceived transgressions
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:24 (ten years ago)
xp Chaki is not pushing "this guy has an open marriage", he's repeatedly pointing out that We Don't Know, we only know that this is some "gay men - threat or menace?" bullshit.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:24 (ten years ago)
― Cory Sklar, Friday, July 17, 2015 12:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok it seems like we're on the same page, must have misunderstood you
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)
Had pretty much this exact thought this morning.
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)
the outing/adultery police stuff is gross, everyone itt (except...whiney) agrees with that.
nah, i agree w/ that too
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)
Most people probably couldn't tell you who Tim Geithner is, much less David. This is basically on the same level as picking out a name at random from a phone book and airing all his dirty laundry.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:26 (ten years ago)
picking out a name from the conde nast directory, surely
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:27 (ten years ago)
i agree that the sanctity of marriage/caring about the wives defense is gross. esp as a defense of an article that mentions his wife ONCE
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:27 (ten years ago)
i apologize for calling you weird kevin k and im virtually shaking your hand
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)
Yeah, "most people" maybe. But for people who actually read the news he was one of the higher-profile figures in the economic meltdown. Like, people do listen to NPR and shit.
― how's life, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)
― Johnny Fever, Friday, July 17, 2015 12:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Maybe that's the next frontier of new media
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:29 (ten years ago)
curious how other queer ppl at gawker are taking this
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:32 (ten years ago)
― Treeship, Friday, July 17, 2015 5:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean... they absolutely shouldn't
not just cause of amoral hacks, there are all sorts of scumbags around & a few not-at-all-famous posters have had problems related to this in the past
― Trap Queenius (wins), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:32 (ten years ago)
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/17/max-reads-justification-gawkers-incomparably-vile-article/
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:33 (ten years ago)
boxall, treeship, wins otm
― nomar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)
I have my own antagonistic feelings about Greenwald, but he's 100% otm here.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:39 (ten years ago)
totes
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:41 (ten years ago)
i wonder if ppl are combing ilx archives looking for something on either jord or max
― ogmor, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:45 (ten years ago)
I luxuriated in the thread where Chaki busts out the 'milquetoast kiss ass' slur. It's on The Church; happy reading everyone!
― The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:46 (ten years ago)
Part of me feels bad for J0rdan. He's always "pushed it" even by gawker's standards and clearly was encouraged to do this, and convinced by gawker's editors that invasions of this kind were a normal thing for journalists to do. Now he's crossed the line and even gawker writers are distancing themselves from the piece.
He's an adult of course and ultimately has pursued this life and is responsible for what he's published, but still.
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:46 (ten years ago)
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, July 17, 2015 4:25 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ditto
― and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)
im sorry if im irrational or coming off self righteous itt. it's upsetting and a reality shock that... people i've interacted with for years even on a tiny scale, that post on ilx, can pull this kind of stuff and my stomach is turning and my heart physically hurts and the world is shit.
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)
jordan will be fine
― flopson, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)
Beyond all that, Gawker has an ongoing war with Reddit, owned by the magazine company for which the CFO works, which suggests this is part of some petty, vindictive drive for vengeance, with the CFO as collateral damage.
not that reddit doesn't deserve to be attacked for maaaaaaany fuckin reasons, but that g.g. point is otm in laying bare the what seems like the motivation for many gawker media exposes
― velcoro pharmacy & provisions (slothroprhymes), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:49 (ten years ago)
Outing the CFO of their parent company will, I'm sure, have an earth-shattering effect on Reddit.
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:51 (ten years ago)
xxxps I don't think anyone needs to pretend JS is an innocent naif led astray - he's clearly known what his role was at Gawker and who he had to be to get the job. He deserves zero sympathy.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:53 (ten years ago)
i think the weirdest thing to me about all of this is that the escort was stupid enough to think that geithner would (or even COULD) help him with his lawsuit, and even moreso stupid enough to try to play that hand before they'd even met up. like, as a shady plot it's just bizarre to watch a writer try to explain.
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:53 (ten years ago)
feel like all the beefs between these new media robber barons should maybe be settled through some sort of bracketed MMA tournament or something, i mean these ppl would prob rather kick each other repeatedly in various sensitive areas than post really good kinja (or insert your comparable blog format here) about each other given the chance
― velcoro pharmacy & provisions (slothroprhymes), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)
the escort v clearly has major mental health concerns
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)
Another (v small, in comparison to everything else ) problem is that the article is really badly put together
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)
xxp AMA tournament
― j., Friday, 17 July 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)
xpost It sounds like the escort is mentally ill, so I don't really expect his role in this to make much sense.
― Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:56 (ten years ago)
The hogan one was positioned as an exploration of the online sextape phenomenon, this one's kind of breathlessly thrown together without any larger goal
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:56 (ten years ago)
xpost yah he's like preparing for the race war and is a 911 truther so...
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 16:57 (ten years ago)