hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

haha an EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT!!!

a New York media power player is gay

Drudge Sirens

gawker offices yesterday

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03080/Ben-Bradlee_3080856b.jpg

everybody involved just keepin' mum & movin' onto the next thing it seems, saving up their "lol, internet outrage!" about their reprehensible bullshit for Monday when people still think it was a profoundly shitty thing to do

"power player" uh huh

one might say he is near the "top" of the media game

xps oddly enough that pic was probably taken when facilitating blackmail to the end of outing an exec with a media company would have been accepted as news

he's still not a public figure, and honestly who cares? if this story just part of a vendetta against conde nast then how does that make it more justifiable & not less

xp

gawker's original beat was celebrities' real time locations in manhattan iirc

'c-suite exec' is the new 'elite qb'

For all I know, David Geithner is a huge dick who's mean to his wife and kids, doesn't tip his servers, and sets copies of the Qur'an on fire in the winter to keep warm. None of that matters. I still fail to see why what happened here was newsworthy for any reason other than just outing the man.

It seems like they are deleting Kinja comments critical of the article. It's not across the board, but there had been a tidal wave of critical comments (not trolling) this morning hitting basically all the articles on the front page and many of them are gone.

I have no idea where the line is when it comes to "public figures"

Is Bill Clinton's brother still a trainwreck? Haven't seen anything about him for a while.

xxpost it was valuable as a critique of journalistic standards

one might say he is near the "top" of the media game

― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, July 17, 2015 10:05 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rly scraping the "bottom" of the barrel here, I wd expect more "versatility" from u :-/

It seems like they are deleting Kinja comments critical of the article. It's not across the board, but there had been a tidal wave of critical comments (not trolling) this morning hitting basically all the articles on the front page and many of them are gone.

pathetic, really pathetic

i've been in the camp of "I only read gawker for the thoughtful longform pieces" for a while, but if this backlash sticks it might become harder for gawker to retain any of that credibility with either writers or audience

xxp http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us/politics/clinton-first-brother-is-wary-chatty-and-still-occasionally-attracting-attention.html

I like to think that J0rdan has actually hand-built a little throne at his apartment, covered it with plush velvet cushions, and is sitting on it, scrolling this thread with one hand and gripping a brass imitation sceptre with the other, perhaps wearing a crown

i'm guessing more writers will think twice about pitching to gawker if they don't do some serious damage control xp

wait is hl saying that people were spamming up comments sections of unrelated articles in re this?

gawker's original beat was celebrities' real time locations in manhattan iirc

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, July 17, 2015 11:08 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbp that was its second beat, og beat was all about nyc publishing ppl

if only media companies had to stick with their original beats. Vice on HBO would be way better as 30 minutes of DOs and DON'Ts every week.

otm

xp to wins: Yeah. Gawker readers were immediately, deeply pissed off about the escort story and the main page has continued publish cute dog videos and celebrity gossip like hey, no big.

i hope max and jord are enjoying their intensive media coaching and legal meetings today, maybe they'll get a nice box lunch or something

well max is still posting on other threads here this morning, I'm hoping his silence here means he's legit ashamed of running this garbage

I'm hoping his silence here means he's legit ashamed of running this garbage

It's probably more a case of "I can get the same kind of treatment everywhere else. Why engage here?"

Or possibly is aware that this is a public forum of the sort that he might not want to make any statements on if this is going legal. Is there a Gawkerer that would be interested in reporting on this? (not a threat, just curious)

Gonna say! I thought it was weird they posted here in the first place.

Xpost

yeah, the fact that they're not aggressively defending the piece here or on twitter makes me think there's a lot of scrambling around behind the scenes right now. but i guess when you point a humiliation laser at people every day, eventually you're gonna shoot yourself. that's not even karma, that's just an inevitability.

they've always been 2 of my fav people here and i've always rooted for them and hoped they'd change gawker more than it would change them, so this is difficult to watch tbh.

Frankly anybody defending their employer on ilx is asking for trouble

i've always rooted for them and hoped they'd change gawker more than it would change them, so this is difficult to watch tbh.

Agreed.

Luke O'Neil @lukeoneil47
I did a tryout for Gawker for a couple days. There was 0 editorial oversight for what I published. Max Read spent more of the day at lunch.
8:47 PM - 16 Jul 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us/politics/clinton-first-brother-is-wary-chatty-and-still-occasionally-attracting-attention.html

― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Friday, July 17, 2015 3:18 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was kind of disappointed you hadn't made up this url

we report, you decide

i've been in the camp of "I only read gawker for the thoughtful longform pieces" for a while, but if this backlash sticks it might become harder for gawker to retain any of that credibility with either writers or audience

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, July 17, 2015 11:17 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm guessing more writers will think twice about pitching to gawker if they don't do some serious damage control xp

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, July 17, 2015 11:20 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hope max and jord are enjoying their intensive media coaching and legal meetings today, maybe they'll get a nice box lunch or something

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, July 17, 2015 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or this will blow over in a week like literally everything else that's ever happened on the internet idk

yeah that's well put some dude. I think that's a bit of why I'm so mad is I look up to max, he has on more than one occasion held my feet to the fire when I was up on some bullshit so it's hard to see what looks from here like "wow, dude is now bullshit"

if I were max or J0rdan my reasoning for posting in this thread today would be:

"Now that I've shown I will proudly publish on a hugely trafficked website anything salacious and semi-verified about Person X that is handed to me by a mentally disturbed person who admits to be trying to blackmail X, even if X is no honest person's idea of a powerful (much less public) person - HERE's why you should still interact with me on this message board. Don't feel weird about posting on "dating problems" or "I hate my coworkers" or ILX Gays TMI" either. I'm sure taking advantage of access to your private (lol, you sap) musings on those subjects is beneath even us. It's hard to envision us later straining to come up with reasoh why your "fucking around on" a partner is newsworthy enough to repurpose it as content."

or this will blow over in a week like literally everything else that's ever happened on the internet idk

Yeah *hulkhogan* nothing to see here *hulkhogan*

That Jezebel 15-year-old does seem to think she's doing something punk rock

― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, July 17, 2015 8:00 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unless she is literally 15 years old, you are a misogynist

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, July 17, 2015 3:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not everyone has to feel good about the truth. If it's true, you hit "Submit Post."

eh the gawker bros have already given enough justifications for why they do shit like this, ranging from weaselly "ethos" stuff to what basically amounts to "the game is the game *shrug*"again, don't see why they would bother repeating all the same stuff xps

(Actually, I genuinely do apologize to 15-year-olds everywhere for using them as a shorthand for jejune takes) x-post

yeah, the fact that they're not aggressively defending the piece here or on twitter makes me think there's a lot of scrambling around behind the scenes right now. but i guess when you point a humiliation laser at people every day, eventually you're gonna shoot yourself. that's not even karma, that's just an inevitability.

they've always been 2 of my fav people here and i've always rooted for them and hoped they'd change gawker more than it would change them, so this is difficult to watch tbh.

― some dude, Friday, July 17, 2015 3:42 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually max has doubled down on defending this piece on twitter under the guise of "this man was fucking around on his wife tho!" as if he's holding the sanctity of hetero-normative marriage sacred which is even more gross and homophobic.

The whole thing could just as easily (and really should've been) a blind item piece, if it had to be a piece at all. I just don't understand the impetus of dragging the subject of the story through the mud like this. He's not selling black market organs or whatever. He's a publishing exec who doesn't even play in editorial.

it's true that the lasting impact has yet to be seen but i'm just speaking to my own response to the article, whiney. this has seriously damaged my own opinion of gawker as an outlet and i can't imagine i'm alone.

Seconded.

chaki would you give that angle a rest thanks

yeah i saw that, i meant that after some initial tweets yesterday he'd gone uncharacteristically silent (xp)