xxp shame is the raison d'être of this kind of exposé so that would be self-defeating unfortunately
― Trap Queenius (wins), Friday, 17 July 2015 09:53 (ten years ago)
Eh, an exec at Condé cheating on his spouse/paying for sex is probably going to be tabloid news, no matter how much we bitch and moan about which site broke the story, because that company is all about selling a version of posh heteronormativity. Vogue and Vanity Fair only like gayness when it's a rich designer doing it, or it's historic and to do with boho aristocrats.
Something similar happened here wherein the wife of a rather prominent Condé Nasty (a publisher herself) was having an affair with a Labour minister, asking him for special work-permit favours for a nanny etc, and it was scandal-sheet fodder for MONTHS.
― error: unclean shutdown (suzy), Friday, 17 July 2015 10:31 (ten years ago)
I think you can decipher key differences between the two stories if you think about it, suzy
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 July 2015 10:35 (ten years ago)
Thanks for implying I don't think about things, bro. Now bore off.
― error: unclean shutdown (suzy), Friday, 17 July 2015 10:43 (ten years ago)
actually it's about ethics in outing journalism
― 龜, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:04 (ten years ago)
^ glib but i'm curious, it seems most here would be much less incensed if it was an anti-gay/homophobic public figure who had been outed. but here the guy's only crime seems to be that he's bought wholesale into the riches afforded by capitalism
what's the spectrum?
― 龜, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:05 (ten years ago)
kinda feels like an easy one to parse, to me - if a person is actively persecuting lgbtq people, working to pass legislation denying them rights etc, outing them is potentially justifiable, especially since outing them will most likely stop them from being successful in denying other people rights.
otherwise, no.
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:14 (ten years ago)
maybe suzy is right but i somehow doubt this has anything to do with exposing CN for hypocrisy, posh heteronormativity or no. afaict its just a juicy story about a rich guy whose last name is kinda famous & the fact he worked for CN just made it juicier. gawker's always been pugnacious with other media companies and loves to think of itself as david taking down goliaths. but it's reaching to suggest there's a righteous motive or justification here. i was going to say that gawker being instrumental is this dudes blackmail is the most disappointing but thats probably on me for being naive.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 11:21 (ten years ago)
The blackmail thing is what pushes this over into repugnant imo as well.
― Frederik B, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:25 (ten years ago)
also as far as i'm concerned this is not about outing the guy for being gay, it's about outing him for hiring a male escort. there's a difference, imho, and tbh this is as much about gawker's shitty, salacious attitude about sex work as anything.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 11:35 (ten years ago)
yeah that's gross too
there's just so many layers of "wow, you guys are heartless assholes- great use of your time on earth!" about this
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:39 (ten years ago)
You know who never pulls bullshit like this? Jalopnik.
― how's life, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:45 (ten years ago)
Filed to: SEX 7/16/15 8:26pm
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:52 (ten years ago)
Stop saying he's cheating on his wife. They could be open, poly, or have an arrangement where he's allowed to fuck dudes while on vacation. Who are Jordan and Max, as 2 ivy league white bros, to say what he is doing is wrong? They are now known forever as 2 men into outing fags.
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:04 (ten years ago)
otm
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:08 (ten years ago)
"Ivy League"?
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:09 (ten years ago)
Sorry, that's not the right thing to fixate on.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:10 (ten years ago)
Haha I guess I used that term wrong though. Ignore that part!
― Cory Sklar, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:11 (ten years ago)
all the reasonable articles make me forget it's a tabloid publishing salacious details. kind of makes me feel like the latter is there to make $$ and spurn angry conversation by ppl who are there for the articles
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:23 (ten years ago)
Would contribute to a kickstarter to raise $5k for Jordan to research this story further in a more hands-on setting
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:25 (ten years ago)
now there's an angle
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:27 (ten years ago)
can't wait until I publish a book and Gawker strikes with their news jet
― The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:48 (ten years ago)
I have a folder of cummy selfies for my next record release
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:50 (ten years ago)
Arseland
― The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:55 (ten years ago)
Cummy Selfies, The Goon Tie Experience8.9 Best New Music
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:56 (ten years ago)
more like Best NUDE Music!
― WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 17 July 2015 13:15 (ten years ago)
ready to preorder
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:11 (ten years ago)
i wonder if the entire tenor of the conversation would have changed if j0rdo led with the fact that dude is literally the guy that makes the tough financial decisions about what to do with the profits from r/coontown
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:16 (ten years ago)
probably didn't have a screenshot of a text saying that
you go with the screenshots of texts you have, not the screenshots of texts you'd like
― j., Friday, 17 July 2015 14:17 (ten years ago)
That Jezebel 15-year-old does seem to think she's doing something punk rock
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, July 17, 2015 8:00 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
unless she is literally 15 years old, you are a misogynist
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:23 (ten years ago)
the people that are aware of conde nast's ownership of reddit and the role that may've played in gawker pursuing this story...don't seem to think any more highly of the post than anyone else
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 14:23 (ten years ago)
this story should obviously not have been published
feeling like 50% of the people decrying it are glad gawker published another gross thing so they can act righteous about it tho, which is also gross
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:24 (ten years ago)
seemingly half of gawker's mentions on twitter right now are gamergate guys crowing "we've been saying gawker is bad news for ALMOST A YEAR, here's how you can make them lose ad money my liberal social justice friends!"
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 14:28 (ten years ago)
super glad we're holding conde nast, that sycophantic arbiter of family values, to account
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 July 2015 14:34 (ten years ago)
holding the feet of the powerful to the fire
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 July 2015 14:35 (ten years ago)
i can't tell who's being sarcastic anymore
anyway running this story was p despicable
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:42 (ten years ago)
gamergaters can tell you why gawker is bad, but they still need a full hour. not fifteen minutes.
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:44 (ten years ago)
Yeah what I find super weird is that I don't think this would have been published by even the sleaziest tabloid not because of the moral issues but because who cares about this guy? were they really expecting readers to be grateful to learn about the sexual improprieties of a random corporate dude related to one of the duller members of the Obama administration?
― JoeStork, Friday, 17 July 2015 14:48 (ten years ago)
story would have been newsworthy if hooker could tell us if Geithner was lizard person or not
― Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:55 (ten years ago)
I mean, I don't support outing anyone, obv, but I really hate the "defense" that this dude was just some rando
He's the CFO at Conde Nast! He used to be an executive VP at Time! He's a New York media power player, ostensibly what Gawker's original beat was...
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:57 (ten years ago)
haha an EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT!!!
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:58 (ten years ago)
a New York media power player is gay
Drudge Sirens
― Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:00 (ten years ago)
gawker offices yesterday
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03080/Ben-Bradlee_3080856b.jpg
― hunangarage, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:03 (ten years ago)
everybody involved just keepin' mum & movin' onto the next thing it seems, saving up their "lol, internet outrage!" about their reprehensible bullshit for Monday when people still think it was a profoundly shitty thing to do
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:04 (ten years ago)
"power player" uh huh
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:04 (ten years ago)
one might say he is near the "top" of the media game
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:05 (ten years ago)
xps oddly enough that pic was probably taken when facilitating blackmail to the end of outing an exec with a media company would have been accepted as news
― head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:06 (ten years ago)
he's still not a public figure, and honestly who cares? if this story just part of a vendetta against conde nast then how does that make it more justifiable & not less
xp
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:07 (ten years ago)
gawker's original beat was celebrities' real time locations in manhattan iirc
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:08 (ten years ago)
'c-suite exec' is the new 'elite qb'
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)