TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

the premise (before the padding out), mood and themes are all cool beans to me. A lot of it has not been executed as well as it was last season, and I blame that on the rushed script and (from what we've heard here) production.

It's the bloated second album that's still fascinating though it's on pace to shipwreck, as we discussed earlier

Art department and locations are great. We'll cast. Disagreement about leads but look at redhead, redhead boy, Rick Springfield, mayor's son, Paul's lover.

Lil redhead girl that dates vince vaughn

shes purty

FUCK YOU grill guy was good in a cliche role.

^^ reading that sentence makes me want a FUCK YOU apron.

you isn't the was that you was or whatever

redhead? u guys are drunk or something, she is sleepwalking through this whole thing

xanax probably

Redhead girl I just didn't want to leave out of the redhead triangle we listed.

Wait...triangle...Bermuda triangle...disappear...missing girl...girl gone...gone girl...affleck...divorce...jennifer garner...james garner...detective rockford...rockford files

ROCKFORD FILES, it's the missing link

pretty sure there won't be a time jump but ep 5 will start right where we left off with all the true d's still standing around breathing heavy and looking at each other, then velcro's mustache falls off and the d's have a good lol and grow closer as a team

warp drive gonna hit a wormhole

i recognise that this is not as good as last year but i think i'm enjoying it more. loved the shot of ani and ray walking out of ani's dads place with their hands in their pockets talking about ray's aura. or maybe i just like any shot of mcadams in jeans.

also enjoyed ray's/nick p's contempt of journalists. rather be first and wrong or second and right or smthg along those lines

the aura thing ruled, i always love that actor and never know his name. he usually plays bad cops.

i'm kinda into vaughn now tbh, he's terrible in this kind of groundbreaking way.

david morse, yea hes good. I recently watched 'the crossing guard', he eerily looks like david foster Wallace in it not a good movie tho

Vaughn's terrible in a kind of show-breaking way

yeah but that's based on the premise that this is a good show that is being broken by vaughn. i'm of the opinion that it's a weirdly compelling bad show that's made more so by my appreciate for vaughn's weird wooden flights of despair and high school play king lear alternating with wisecracking tuff guy shit

true, it would probably just be in boringly incompetent territory if it wasn't for Vaughn's character (writing and performance)

he definitely takes it to a fascinatingly horrible place

Not convinced his ineptitude is that fascinating tbh guys

^^sounds like a guy that's had a cavity smh

I’ve never lost a tooth… never even had a fuckin cavity

i admit i kind of liked that line

i said upthread that this show would have to get pretty damn bad before I stopped enjoying it..and it's really far from that status.

there really is something fascinating about it...watching the actors try to cope with difficult material, to varying degrees of success. i quite enjoy the over the top pulpy dialogue and the genre signifiers which appear as if big flashing neon signs. i like the fact that there is nary a person in the whole show who seems to have their shit together. i enjoy the pace and mood of it.

i dont like the pedestrian direction, and i dont like how the story feels like a first draft. it's either somehow too focused or not focused enough.

have no idea how this will play out, but at this point it almost feels like this last episode should have happened sooner. i feel like the story just started. im curious to what degree those of us who have had patience and affection for the show to this point will be rewarded in these last 4 eps or if it's just gonna continue in this vaguely enjoyable way.

granted there are flashes of a *much* better show here and there and that's certainly part of its fascination.

high school play king lear alternating with wisecracking tuff guy shit

in love with ^

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/07/mcadams-pizzolatto-sexism-season-two-nussbaum-review/

Jacobin usually makes me want to jam a fork in my eye but that was surprisingly agreeable

Yeah that was great

I think she goes a bit too far in arguing that the end of season 1 overturns all of rust's monologues. I don't think it has to be a zero sum game. as a professor of mine used to say, "all the evidence is on the side of the nihilists, but then what?"

still enjoyed that and nice to see some good criticism out there!

not clear to me that the last thing that happens in a tv show is the thing that determines what it all means

yeah that was a bit of a stretch for me

david morse, yea hes good. I recently watched 'the crossing guard', he eerily looks like david foster Wallace in it not a good movie tho

― johnny crunch, Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:51 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weird, i was just coming here to say that morse would have been so much better as DFW than segel in that DFW movie, age difference immaterial...something about the vibe he's putting out in this role made me think of him especially.

the vibe in crossing guard kinda fits too, like i could picture wallace @ that party he goes to after getting out of prison & the relaish w robin wright

hey when taylor and drunk detective were in the pawn shop and they're comparing watches to the photo, the one that they're like "yeah this is it" is totally not the same watch, right? there's writing on the face of one and not the other. but then later they're like "this dudes prints were all over it!" is it supposed to be a setup or otherwise shady, or am i seeing that shot wrong, or is it just this show being stupid?

http://imgur.com/0qI785Q

http://i.imgur.com/0qI785Q.png rather

same watch, different lighting

is that a shadow above the 6 that i'm seeing as text? sorry for low res

Yeah, I see a second line of text too.

totally not the same watch

cursory research suggests it's a cartier ballon bleu (kate middleton wears one). in the picture the line of text below the hands says "automatic" and every self-winding version of the watch seems to have this. the watch in the shot is either a knockoff or (more likely) a quartz version, which of course would not have "automatic" printed on it.

basically propmaster not a watch guy (or gal)

little continuity problems like this support the theory that production was rushed

as does the failure to re-write 90% of Vaughn's dialogue ... I think he's doing pretty well considering how many of his lines are flat-out ridiculous

^^ "the visit from the stork"

your compensatory projection of menace is a guarantor of its lack

poor rick springfield

episode 5 of 8, and we finally have a ballgame

we're getting set up for a McAdams pregnancy, right?

ok what

no