Irish politics discussion thread

it was handled terribly, as was household charge

and yeah the q of where's the money going that was supposedly paying for it already comes up, but tbh its more that water (in fact, local authority in general) funding has been a shambles for decades and addressing it has been a legit new cost.

just, as we said, handled terribly

i though it not much until a fellow philosopher supposed twas like noonan coming down twice a week and buying me a coffee but only not coming down to do it himself maybe leaving a standing tab for me somewhere as suited my own location at the time and looked at like that tbh i guess id rather he stayed doing his job for we mightnt even get on if he were to call in, though i think we probably would.

― local eire man (darraghmac)

jaysus hes done great things to that tab

Its election time!!!
http://s17.postimg.org/hu5ourp1b/simpsons.jpg

Those votechecker smartvote sites are bullshit huh

Is there an alternative that isnt an idealist nonsense or a tantrum

Social Democrats?

Right

Calling it

FG Labour returned

Polls all wrong

FG/FF i reckon

Not this time, they must let a govt fail before playacting a disappointed but inevitable union.

I cant see Labour getting enough votes tho

No. The predicted big push from fg to shore labour up never came.

Still think middle Ireland will have more votes in them than the polls are showing.

Kinda welcome whatever at this stage, more varied and interesting political landscape than I can recall.

gombeen men

trigger warning: flat caps, priests, dog bothering and shotguns featured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=111&v=63XaJdZF9cU

Transfers are gonna be huuuge, right

^

Day might be salvaged yet on them imo

Enda looking a bit crestfallen + weird scab on his upper lip

Michael Lowry ffs

And McGrath with it

Yeah Enda looks run down

Well advised to take the first dignified exit before varadkar makes a move.

mattie mcgrath was 7th fav in tipp a few days ago. Man of the people shur.

Predictions putting fg at 53, ten more than predicted on exit polls.

Predicting from exit polls is so fuckin dumb in our system and partic in this election

Just struck me that it's v likely that president, leader of fg, leader of lab v likely to be gay in next while

leaves only michael Martin, seeing as how Mary Lou has been in a loveless mock relationship with a beard for years now

Lol at kelly, lolololol

Corollary

Discussion and side-discussion in uk politics thread yesterday about the necessity of proper dirty left wing extremists (fagvo extreme or what-have-you) to counter ukip or the tory rump or the bnp

and (forgive me im more than unusually slow in many spheres) it struck me that we don't really acknowledge that we have these guys here, in fact they in many ways occupy that unthinking white working class rage reaction political space over here.

And if anything, theyre fuckin worse in a lot of ways. They whip up the usual damaging froth politics that block or stymie good political progress, and hey as a bonus they kill or support the killing of public servants and they enforce on behalf of a particularly powerful gang culture.

Am i overthinking it or does this explain a certain variance btwn the political cultures where the uk cru react ahah a little intemperately to suggestions that their worldview of the guaranteed progressivism of the left is a little ahah naive?

or is it more that theyre the privileged remnant of an invading culture that have the luxury of guilt and crumpets.

Cant decide. Irish answers only please.

Irish politics over the last 20 years is a mush of centrist parties tho, innit? There's never been a history of lefty parties. Ok SINN FEIN. but I'm more interested in looking at the likes of AAA/PBP/Socialist parties that have gained slightly in the last few years as they come with less baggage. Whatever you think about the water charges I think a fire needed to be lit under the arse of the Irish public and take some sort of charge after the last few years of slack-jawed shock. I'm kinda on the fence about them in general. I'm glad their a voice of dissent and the Irish Independent certainly hates them but they're hampered by a lot of nonsense, no platform finger wagging and that relentless robotic lefty jargon that looks like an undergraduate Marxist newsletter. I dunno it's a bit Rik from The Young Ones. I knew one of the AAA election candidates in college. He was a bit of a sap truth be told. Anyway How do you think they stymie good political progress? He'll I'm not even sure what "good political progress" is these days

There'll be havoc now lads

mike that was a good answer i never spotted. maybe ill even respond one day hey

gombeen men at it again?

youll have to be more specific tbh

Time to bring in Robo-Garda

NED-209

nice

t k whitaker has died. giant.

will history be kind tho

i mean compared to haughey, bertie, trump

where is enda

Enda An Era

too close to endevalera

such a long reign, but a strangely muted one. took a gigantic recession and near-bankruptcy to get the electorate to actually vote fg into power and even then always the sense they were just keeping it warm for ff to return. don't think for a second varadkar or coveney will be taoiseach after an election.

not that i can measure the waters partic well from over here, but i doubt much has changed.

gombeen man

9 o'clock news' Greatest Hits of Enda package was nauseating preceded by a bunch of Fine Gael TDs I've never seen before speaking a load of shite

history will be kind, varadkar will be taoiseach

wonder if brutons name will come up at all

Varadkar unleashing his inner Tebbit and then retracting his statement moments after

Gwan?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/leo-varadkar-s-welfare-cheats-advertisements-a-hate-campaign-1.3083638

Did James Reilly really come out and say "Simon knows what it's like to have a wife and kids"?

Cunt/s

So you have a gay PM!

Does this mean your food is gonna get better?

Gay Indian so def