TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

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Was thinking more about Vaughn's character, as I am wont to do, and I realize that one of his more interesting tics--that reflexive "right thinking" concern for decorum stuff he says (I don't want any kids getting snake-bit, what kinda way is that to greet the world)--is itself something of a put on, his idea of what an "upstanding" citizen might think or say.

ryan, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:51 (ten years ago)

like, Ray is a great character imo because he's totally himself, everything he says and does issues from a solid inner state that is not exactly definable but easy to feel. Frank is just totally lost, a vacuum in the place of a person.

ryan, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:53 (ten years ago)

btw I appreciated both the excitement of the shootout and the palpable fear and dismay of the characters during it.

ryan, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:54 (ten years ago)

"what kinda way is that to greet the world" is one of the best lines ever shouted on television.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:59 (ten years ago)

Given Farrell losing the mustache, I wonder if this is going to jump ahead in time next week: cased closed, until THREE YEARS LATER.

... (Eazy), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:04 (ten years ago)

Also, awaiting the bar singer to get taken out mid-song with a single shot. Talk, talk, BLAM, talk talk.

... (Eazy), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)

needed michael mann on that shootout. yeah it was coherent but that should be the basics of any action scene, not a plus. lacked anything distinctive in pacing or staging and tension. imo the raid on the porn-house early in episode 1, brief as it was, was much more distinct and deftly handled (especially opening with that wide aerial shot of a half dozen bodies rapidly converging at the front of the house). this felt identifiable as the seasons centrepiece because it was bloated, not because it was memorable (events depicted aside).
i'm not an expert but you generally don't fire+move at the same time, it decreases your effectiveness at both. every cop in this scene was running and gunning simultaneously. Just kind of removed a lot of the believability from the scene for me, especially since this show always tries so hard to maintain its cops as hyper-competent with the violence-related aspects of their job, these guys were outed as amateurs as soon as the firing started.

thought farrell having to meet his kid in secret in the dark backyard was pretty lol, you know you've done well as a parent when you have to disappear into the trees after giving your son a gift. the actor playing the kid is nailing it with his permanent "?" expression whenever farrell's around.

also great call on northern california xp.

dutch_justice, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:56 (ten years ago)

colin farrell jr grows up to be the landscaper in "true detective season 1"

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:27 (ten years ago)

you know you've done well as a parent when you have to disappear into the trees after giving your son a gift.

loool the ninja cut was the best unintentionally funny part of the episode. He should've used that skill on the Raven-man and not his 11 year old son, however.

Cunga, Monday, 13 July 2015 22:36 (ten years ago)

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/no-words-homer-into-brush.gif

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:54 (ten years ago)

loooool otm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:57 (ten years ago)

I felt like it was a bit of a batman move.

Very chinatown moments, guy complaining about growing avocados.

dan selzer, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:28 (ten years ago)

xp lol yes

(also reminded of adam kesher staring after disappeared cowboy)

drash, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:31 (ten years ago)

xp yep homer in the shrub was my exact thought when I saw that scene, ahaha

franny glasshole (franny glass), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:40 (ten years ago)

the freeze frame seriously cracked me up

Number None, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:43 (ten years ago)

also this week in Vince Vaughn's thesaurus adventures

"You know the word louche"?

Number None, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:50 (ten years ago)

at first i thought he said luge

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:54 (ten years ago)

Given Farrell losing the mustache, I wonder if this is going to jump ahead in time next week: cased closed, until THREE YEARS LATER.

― ... (Eazy), Monday, July 13, 2015 11:04 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah prob mcadams wearing a uniform saying u really think we closed the case

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 01:14 (ten years ago)

btw ive learned from all the police misbehavior in the news that if ur a cop under investigation for police rules violations not law breaking just resign the case will be dropped and you can get a job at a diff department

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 01:17 (ten years ago)

shrub homer was basically all i enjoyed about this ep

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 02:56 (ten years ago)

finally watched the first ep of this

it was boooooooooring

i just wanted to watch some dang ol teevee

now it seems like WORK to keep going

j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 04:15 (ten years ago)

Skip to ep 4

Spottie, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 04:42 (ten years ago)

what kind of a way to watch a show is that

j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 04:44 (ten years ago)

idk

Spottie, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 04:55 (ten years ago)

It's like Nick PazzLMAO has a really good 120 minute story this season, about Ray, Frank and Ani and the immediate case, but then he has to pad it out with stories concerning Paul and all these domestic subplots (the first season had Marty's marriage as padding, too) as filler to get to his contract-promised eight scripts.

The fake out ending to episode two and the shoot out from episode 4 are both red herrings.

He should just make movies or get the show down to 4 episodes as a miniseries.

Cunga, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 04:59 (ten years ago)

is what what what is

j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 05:22 (ten years ago)

i'm finally coming around to vince vaughn i think

but it might be because he was playing the fast talking tough guy con man the whole ep

, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:46 (ten years ago)

i lol'd the scene in the car where colin is like *gestures to glove compartment* "take your cure" [glove compartment opens to reveal PRESCRIPTION DRUGS and CIGARETTES and A SMALL BOTTLE OF VODKA]

, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:47 (ten years ago)

you don't have those in your glove compartment? smh

about vaughn: i thought so too. helps that there were signs of life in his relationship with the redhead--there's been a funereal atmosphere with them for the most part.

it was really interesting watching ray trying to talk someone off the ledge.

i wish they'd let Ani at least laugh or smile at a joke someone makes...or maybe that will happen later and it'll be a big moment or something.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:51 (ten years ago)

it kinda read as like THE ART OF MANLINESS GUIDE TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE

, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)

probably calling it 'cure' was what put it over hte top for me

, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)

i did think 2 and 3 got more watchable - bit more verve in the writing.

not sure i buy that vaughn is miscast.

j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:57 (ten years ago)

vaughan, to frank's point in the last episode, is getting better as he gets worse.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:58 (ten years ago)

so pissed already if there's going to be a time jump tho

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:59 (ten years ago)

i lol'd the scene in the car where colin is like *gestures to glove compartment* "take your cure" [glove compartment opens to reveal PRESCRIPTION DRUGS and CIGARETTES and A SMALL BOTTLE OF VODKA]

― 龜, Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:47 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like this was an apt symbol for the whole shows desire to include every possible genre cliche in every scene, think there was a weed pipe in there too lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:02 (ten years ago)

it was nice of farrell to let the production borrow his actual car and glove compartment for the scene, v charitable of him

hopefully the jump will only be a month or so a la the gaps between many mad men episodes, because that would make sense, anything beyond that would be disappointing for sure though

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:04 (ten years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/1Ru0ELK.png

niice

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:05 (ten years ago)

tums, weed, weed pipe, pills, butts, vodka

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:05 (ten years ago)

glad ray got a new car, a dodge charger suits him.

would have been funny to include a scene over the credits of him stocking the car.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:06 (ten years ago)

when he saw the car burning he was totally thinking abt losing his sweet glove compartment stash

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:07 (ten years ago)

there are all kinds of traumas.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:08 (ten years ago)

tums is a perfect touch.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:08 (ten years ago)

like, you know that's already in every detective's glove compartment.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:09 (ten years ago)

velcoro has all the bad habits

agree re vaughn
like, formality in way he delivers lines (prob most 'difficult' dialogue to say convincingly) is interesting rather than bad performance
lol at ominous sugar/cavity/teeth metaphors

drash, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:09 (ten years ago)

btw let me note for the record

those moments, they stare back at you
you don’t remember them, they remember you
turn around, there they are, staring

drash, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)

english teacher me needs to point out that papa fred ward was sitting in same place of the bar that vaughn always sits.

ryan, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)

Sometimes your worst performance is your best performance.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:13 (ten years ago)

lol

drash, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:13 (ten years ago)

i dont know how to be in this world
look out the window look at me no one does

p good insight tbh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:15 (ten years ago)

also ray is an american spirits man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:16 (ten years ago)


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