everybody on ilx complains about reddit

reading about reddit makes me feel old or something. i have no nostalgic attachment to the radical free speech, anarchic environment of reddit et al and generally think it would be a much better place if pao shut down all of the hateful subreddits, using her discretion to decide which ones sucked as the chief officer of a privately owned company. it has nothing to do with the first amendment. people can talk to their friends in their own homes if they want to spew garbage, they aren't entitled to an international platform.

i guess that can't happen now. but seriously, it's so stupid that these people think their right to use reddit as a playground to be shitheads is a political stance.

Default subreddit?

yeah, idgi

Treeship otm.

If they want a unlimited realm for free speech maybe don't post on a site owned by the same company that owns GQ, Vanity Fair, Wired, and a large number of other traditional media magazines.

Reading about Pao, it's kind of insane they picked someone who famously brought a harassment suit against her last employers to head up Reddit. CEO trolling?

Default subreddit: If you just go to the site, the posts you see by default are from a number of default subreddits. A while ago, that list was changed, which is why something like /r/personalfinance and /r/writingprompts is on the frontpage so often now. And I don't think they should be.

these are people that watch videos of people playing mindcraft for hours. i dont think they understand earth v well.

Stan, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

http://i.imgur.com/IUqJfUW.png

He means the "all" tab (front page for those not logged in)

I don't have an account, and that's always the first page I see.

Hitting "all" shows me just about the same thing.

Is it an IP thing?

Oh my mistake, I'm always logged in. Stuff like funny and gaming etc are also defaults - if you logged in and subscribed to ie buttsex and brony those are what you'd see on Front instead of (alongside?) the defaults xp

ya depending on if up sitting down or standing up

You have to touch your right index finger to your nose to get gonewild

how does Gawker have safe harbor re: naked pictures that could very well be of underage people?

what?

He means reddit i think

er, yeah, was reading the Gawker thread right before this one

reddit shld hire max to be the ceo

lag∞n imo

lagoon will do the AMAs

adam schefter would be the first one

most important questions will always be of the form "is it true that <x> is bad?"

animated fox to writhe down a tree trunk, run a lascivious eye to camera, smoothly contend that it would be untrue to say that it isn't not good, take a showy swig of a branded refreshment, flip some vogues and exit stage left with a model on one paw and a new media award in the other, scene

antipaoistas are making a lot of this rewrite:

http://newsdiffs.org/diff/934341/934454/www.nytimes.com/2015/07/11/technology/ellen-pao-reddit-chief-executive-resignation.html

lol

its almost as if there was reporting and writing done in the interim

I wonder if the dismissal of the community managers who were doing good work was linked to Pao

What if she was a bad manager AND unjustly dogpiled on due to reddit being full of misogynist shitlords?

I read a thing that implied the co-founder/board chairman of reddit fired the beloved AMA mod and let Pao take the heat.

He took plenty of heat too, actually.

I think the moderators of the white supremacist subreddits should get more heat.

I didn't know about them until recently. Nauseating stuff.

spotted this via andy baio on twitter, in response to someone asking "why is reddit described as 'nothing but a cesspool,' it has useful stuff!"

A cesspool would be a big pool that you had to wade through with no way of avoiding the gross bits, yes.

Reddit is more like a restaurant with an awesome eclectic flight of wines. And some of the most popular selections are actually glasses of sewage. And the wine flight is well known to local drinkers for the sewage, whether because they're annoyed about it or because they're big fans of shit-in-a-glass. And if you want to have some friends out to the joint to drink some wine for the first time, you have to give them preemptive instructions on how the first thing they should is carefully dump out all the glasses of sewage and then order some other wine instead. Because the pinot is really nice.

I have complicated feelings about reddit as an aspirational model for link aggregation and discussion, and I don't think it's valueless by a long shot, but the current model has some serious problems when just introducing someone to the site basically requires explaining to them how to avoid being repelled by the actual popular content of the site.

that signal-to-noise argument has been applicable to any sort of content provider a lot longer than reddit's been around; weird how everybody wants to put the emphasis in new media on NEW instead of MEDIA

reddit's "no censorship ever" ethos is gonna constantly falter against the reality that "no censorship" amounts to de facto exclusion of those that are most vulnerable. better to institute a degree of censorship to allow a more productive space of discussion. (I'd argue that a kind of censoring is already in place at reddit, just not one they'd admit to.) voices must be excluded, so why not exclude the shitty ones? their corporate desire is to be a universal platform but that idea isn't really coherent.

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Reddit is more like a restaurant with an awesome eclectic flight of wines. And some of the most popular selections are actually glasses of sewage. And the wine flight is well known to local drinkers for the sewage, whether because they're annoyed about it or because they're big fans of shit-in-a-glass. And if you want to have some friends out to the joint to drink some wine for the first time, you have to give them preemptive instructions on how the first thing they should is carefully dump out all the glasses of sewage and then order some other wine instead. Because the pinot is really nice.

lol it's a little telling how tortured this metaphor is

That metaphor doesn't seem at all tortured to me?

telling... of what?

needs more instruction about the proper way to swirl the shit around in the glass before drinking in order to fully engage with the bouquet

it's more like going to a shopping mall where you have to walk past the kkk merchandise to get to macy's

except there's no macy's, only spencer's gifts

no one on reddit will understand this because shopping malls have been completely different entities during their lives

replace "spencer's gifts" with "hot topic"

replace "hot topic" with "wine n' sewage"

hot topic seems to roll with the changes a little. the last time i saw an extant spencer's gifts it was still mostly novelties that played fart noises and outdated licensed merchandise

replace "wine n' sewage" with a "Yankee Candle" having one scent: "cinnamon vanilla sewage"

mall gothic

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantanoforever/

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=59

Thought forks' link was gonna be the fanta girls.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/07/hate_speech_on_reddit_a_simple_novel_plan_to_quarantine_it.1.html

i'm pretty skeptical of this idea for a couple reasons, but, it's an idea