Jimmy Saville is still alive...

Freddie Starr loses groping defamation case

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33477004

Comedian Freddie Starr has lost his High Court claim against Karin Ward, who said he groped her when she was 15.
Ms Ward, 56, alleges that the assault took place in 1974 behind the scenes of Jimmy Savile's Clunk Click TV show.
Mr Starr, 72, of Studley, Warwickshire, denied the claims and sought damages for alleged slander and libel.
Judge Mr Justice Nicol said the case failed because Ms Ward's testimony was found to be true, and because too much time had lapsed.

Savile revelations
The claim over the eBook related to allegations which Ms Ward had proved were true, the judge also ruled.
Ms Ward's solicitor, Helen Morris, said in a statement after the ruling that the allegation about Mr Starr was made during two interviews Ms Ward gave about the sexual abuse at the hands of Jimmy Savile.
She said Ms Ward had been abandoned by the two broadcasters who interviewed her and had been treated "disgracefully".
"It is particularly egregious for the BBC and ITV/ITN to have done so when Karin Ward put her head above the parapet to speak out about Savile," she said.

The former music industry figure Jonathan King has been arrested on suspicion of historical child sex offences, the BBC understands.
Mr King, 70, was arrested at his home in Bayswater, west London, on Wednesday morning.
Two other men, aged 77 and 86, both from Walton-on-Thames, were also arrested and are being questioned.
The arrests were made in connection with allegations linked to the Walton Hop Disco in Walton-on-Thames.

Tom Pat0n and Deniz C0rday?

Paton died in 2009

theyre trying to convict a demented person so sergei magnitsky style posthumous trial is always possibile

Julie Andrews is from Walton on Thames. Maybe it's her.

julie andrews is a man?

Cops saw Victor Victoria, got confused

didn't we all

Jimmy Pursey is never 86.

Hopefully that is a reference to my lengthy theory posted some time ago on the Sham 69 thread where I opined that "Borstal Breakout" is about Jonathan King. I still think it's a valid interpretation.

Actually it was merely a reference to the fact that Pursey is from Hersham, but the plot thickens:

He was a regular attender at the local disco, the 'Walton Hop' at the Playhouse theatre, where he met Jonathan King.

bit of sham triv: did you know the 'harry' of hurry up harry was actually cliff richard?

When King was first convicted, Pursey appeared on Newsnight to talk about going to the Walton Hop and encountering King there (don't think he alleged that he'd been abused by King - more that it was the kind of place where all sorts of unsavoury activities occured)

Yeah, remember that one.

I thought it was a reference to Jimmy Pursey being done for indecent assault himself tbh.

Blimey, it's all coming out now.

No, I think Colonel Poo is saying that he thought your previous comment implied Pursey had been 'done' for indecent assault. He hasn't been.

This piece by Jon Ronson on King includes comments from Pursey:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2001/dec/01/weekend.jonronson

Errr, I'm not sure about that, the Colonel would have to answer for himself.

No, I was referring to Jimmy Pursey being cautioned for indecent assault.

When was that?

2002

http://www.subcultz.com/2012/05/the-end-of-an-ego/

Apologies for the misinterpretation

Well, I wasn't sure myself till I did a bit of googling.

I think the Walton Hop itself is interesting because it's become one of those 'dark places' that seems to regularly reoccur within British society - Dolphin Square, Stoke Mandeville, Cromwell Road, Rillington Place etc

One for the Real England thread?

too fucking real

Regarding Sham 69's claim that 'if the kids are united, they will never be divided'

This book leapt out at me at work this morning:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51C-ZwClV-L._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Best described as a sort of freewheeling account of how Our Jim's deep Christian faith affects his approach to life, the opening sentences of the chapter, "How Do I Cope With Sex" caught my attention:

The word 'sex' is like the word 'love'. It means differing things to different people. Sex at its worst is corruption, as when young people might be corrupted to provide sex

Still available on Amazon, folks!

it's quoted from in several places in dan davies' savile bio in plain sight - the extracts were all creepy as fuck iirc

Interesting piece behind the FT paywall on the growing number of people over the age of 60 in prison, partly due to the prosecution of historical offences, and the impact it's having on prison life:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9f7f3432-763b-11e5-a95a-27d368e1ddf7.html#axzz3peoUHIdB

In 2015, the number of over-60s in jail topped 4,000 for the first time on record, more than double the figure 10 years ago. It is the fastest-growing age group in custody.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34796549

Two former members of 1960s band The Tremeloes have been accused of historical indecent assault.
Richard Westwood, 72, from Surrey, and Leonard Hawkes, 69, from Berkshire, have been summonsed to Chester Magistrates on 2 December, police said.
They will both face one count each of indecent assault relating to an incident in Chester in 1968.

Chesney's dad I assume?

So it seems.

the one and only

and the other one.

new BBC Theroux doc tonight.

The two terms were judged not guilty, just to be fair.

Fred Talbot jailed for four years for sex offences on school trips to Scotland

Ian Brown gave testimony. Funnily enough, the ex-Fall drummer Simon Wolstencroft mentioned going on that same camping trip that the case was based around, but doesn't mention Fred or anything relating to what happened.

bye bye badman

Quite.

As an American I had only the vaguest sense who jimmy saville was and what he did, decided to correct that last year by reading In Plain Sight and I can't say I'm 'glad' I did, but he definitely fills a unique niche in the historical beast cabinet

oh aye, he was a character alright

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/ad_152781151.jpg

A company has brought out a card game called ‘British Nonces’ similar to Top Trumps where you compete using cards with well known perverts, paedophiles and killers as the subject. The roster of 52 includes the likes of Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and late MP Cyril Smith. Categories for the game are as follows: physical threat, slipperiness, cockiness, offences, remorse and ‘nonceoriety’.

"The Spymaster from PIE"

the man from noncle

paedophilia is SO funny

come off it Stevie, half of my family were abused by the catholic church and still like dark lols, without humour some of us might give up!

mind you, I heard Jimmy S considered paedophilia to be a very serious business.

I was going to do a joke about PIEty, but I might going in 51 territory here!