TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

This is actually getting better I think. I have a sort spot for diffuse detective stories and i am fully okay with not getting resolution on every little detail.
opening scene reminded me most of the major's dream speech to bobby in twin peaks. nice.

nobody has mentioned the funniest joke -- was i alone in laughing when Ray called Antigone "Xena"?

gay copy was p obviously gay from early on and while i hope to learn more about "black mountain security" i am not really that interested in his love life. or anyone else's, really. was not interested in frank's scene with his wife at the clinic or w/e.

stick to being a slimeball imo, the less human vince vaughn is the better. it's hard to take him seriously, and i don't know why. i don't have any real preconceived notion about "who vince vaughn is supposed to be" but he seems to struggle with his rhythm as others have noted.

it is getting better, but I'm honestly looking forward to season 2 of Fargo now and mentally putting this on the back burner.

xena line was funny. there's a lot of funny lines, but everything is so undersold (or just plain mumbled) or something that it doesn't really register.

about frank, yeah. im repeating myself, but i really do think he's very interesting character, yet i have a hard time imagining someone who could convincingly play all the different registers. someone mentioned a much older Leo, but he strikes me as too innately confident. you gotta have someone who can play deeply intelligent and vulnerable who is forced to play tough and angry.

dialogue is mixed low in general and it's a shame. i'm sure some good stuff is flying by. xena line was solid but also a little, i dunno, whedonish.

a better personality for vaughn to play wldve been slick talking smarmy con man with a heart of violence

he's good at the flipping-out stuff, the pensive even tempered stuff not quite as convincing

i just really love xena.

also, are we sure exactly what xena wanted to be done to her in bed? was it explicitly like a physical violence thing?

i thought it was more what she wanted to do to him

The directors have not been announced for episodes 4-5 and 8. My wild speculation thinks this means it might be someone big. David Lynch? My friend suggested Curtis Hanson. Really, though, could be anyone.

lol Lynch would never touch this garbage

also, are we sure exactly what xena wanted to be done to her in bed? was it explicitly like a physical violence thing?

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she just wanted her ass ate this show is up to date with memes

the one constant in each season of true detective will be the munching of the butts.

Nah, they left it up to our imagination. Her kink is like the glowing briefcase.

lol was there analingu in s1

pegging is the sex meme du jour (per Louie and Broad City)

poor louie just cant catch a break eh

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"Marty...I want you to fuck me in the ASS."

wrong thread

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you gotta have someone who can play deeply intelligent and vulnerable who is forced to play tough and angry.

ruffffaalloooooo

though i know, shutter island flashbacks

ruffalo would've been a good choice

For a minute, pictured Chiklis in the Vaughn role and Walt Goggins in either of the other two.

Well, that escalated quickly, as the joke goes.

If that was the Vinci police, that would have to be just about the whole department.

I liked how something that would have been a big payoff in another series was just one big wtf here. Like they had accidentally wandered into the wrong movie.

I have no idea where this story's headed, and it's probably going to be dumb when it gets there. But its doing a good job of replicating that Big Sleep vibe of nobody knowing what's going on.

on the one hand, a bit ambivalent about them replicating the template to an extent by having a bravura action sequence right at the season's midpoint

on the other, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that was intense

not as much of a visual stunt as the infamous tracking shot and the camerawork isn't as nimble but pretty well done otherwise, coherent, you always knew where everything was happening in relation to everything else, which is far from guaranteed in a lot of action filmmaking. and the thrilling nature of the shootout's motion is properly undercut by how brutal the violence is

I liked how something that would have been a big payoff in another series was just one big wtf here. Like they had accidentally wandered into the wrong movie.

Yep

And agreed that it tried to be like last season's mid-point.

Frustrating episode: I wanted answers to previous questions, not more digressions -- but then that's the show, isn't it?

And Roy from the office!

Boy he's taking the break-up hard

would've been more fun if the final scene was at the Ojai-style resort.

Tonally, and with all the interrogations, this is reminding me more and more of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAkfQr3e-4

Next week's preview

youtube.com/watch?v=s-rmdttg3EI

This show has so many misdirections. The end of tonight's, like the end of the 2nd episode, doesn't really accomplish, reveal, or advance the main plot, I bet. Although I see the return of Rick Springfield -- imdb had him at only 1 episode originally.

that shootout was craaaaaaay
mayor prob told the lowlifes to open fire on civilians if shit got out of hand, collateral damage will get her out of his hair permanently

other thoughts

tim riggins is getting kinda corny, hope they right that ship soon

vince vaughn & his wife seem like they are in a funny or die parody sketch

i really do kinda like this show, but i want to say to nicky pizza, did you ever say *any* of this dialogue out loud to yourself when you were writing it? it's like a mail-order "Write Noir Like A Pro"

"with friends like these" argh argh argh

Another parallel - that photo that McAdams' dad had of all the older generation of corrupt fucks hanging out on the beach along with teenaged Mayor McBooze, etc. - the equivalent to the five-guys-on-horses photo from Season 1.

felt that way even if it's not. but it probably is.

Well, it feels like part 1 just ended, the false solution, the end of their "official" relationships with each other.

The discussion about Ray's aura was funny. I recommend looking up what a green and black aura signifies, it's interesting!

Ray's dad talking about "trees like giants" and the last shots of the opening credits make me think this is gonna play out in Northern California.

Was thinking more about Vaughn's character, as I am wont to do, and I realize that one of his more interesting tics--that reflexive "right thinking" concern for decorum stuff he says (I don't want any kids getting snake-bit, what kinda way is that to greet the world)--is itself something of a put on, his idea of what an "upstanding" citizen might think or say.

like, Ray is a great character imo because he's totally himself, everything he says and does issues from a solid inner state that is not exactly definable but easy to feel. Frank is just totally lost, a vacuum in the place of a person.

btw I appreciated both the excitement of the shootout and the palpable fear and dismay of the characters during it.

"what kinda way is that to greet the world" is one of the best lines ever shouted on television.

Given Farrell losing the mustache, I wonder if this is going to jump ahead in time next week: cased closed, until THREE YEARS LATER.

Also, awaiting the bar singer to get taken out mid-song with a single shot. Talk, talk, BLAM, talk talk.

needed michael mann on that shootout. yeah it was coherent but that should be the basics of any action scene, not a plus. lacked anything distinctive in pacing or staging and tension. imo the raid on the porn-house early in episode 1, brief as it was, was much more distinct and deftly handled (especially opening with that wide aerial shot of a half dozen bodies rapidly converging at the front of the house). this felt identifiable as the seasons centrepiece because it was bloated, not because it was memorable (events depicted aside).
i'm not an expert but you generally don't fire+move at the same time, it decreases your effectiveness at both. every cop in this scene was running and gunning simultaneously. Just kind of removed a lot of the believability from the scene for me, especially since this show always tries so hard to maintain its cops as hyper-competent with the violence-related aspects of their job, these guys were outed as amateurs as soon as the firing started.

thought farrell having to meet his kid in secret in the dark backyard was pretty lol, you know you've done well as a parent when you have to disappear into the trees after giving your son a gift. the actor playing the kid is nailing it with his permanent "?" expression whenever farrell's around.

also great call on northern california xp.

colin farrell jr grows up to be the landscaper in "true detective season 1"

you know you've done well as a parent when you have to disappear into the trees after giving your son a gift.

loool the ninja cut was the best unintentionally funny part of the episode. He should've used that skill on the Raven-man and not his 11 year old son, however.

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