a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

*Poehler

Yes--she seemed to want to convey the idea that she was a big fan of Fay's impression. Which wasn't believable for a second. I'm sure she hated it, and hated Fay. As she should have--there wasn't a trace of affection in that impression, just loathing and ridicule.

Tina Fey

Best thing about Palin's SNL appearance was Baldwin saying "Oh, hey, Tina" to the real Sarah.

Most voters dislike “everything about him,” the same survey found of Mr. Christie.

this was actually an option in the poll? ouch.

Trump seems to have created some business problems for himself by running for Prez

LOL never heard the real "Sock it to ME??" wow what a terrible line reading.

81 things Huckabee has denounced

18.) The actress Jamie Lynn Spears, for being pregnant and unmarried. "why because she look intersting" (2007).

"I just can't picture Jesus going into a restroom with a magic marker and writing his name all over the walls."

photoshop plz

who needs magic markers when you've got stigmata.

let's see if this works...

                    LIKELY REP CAUCUS-GOERS.............................
                                   Wht    POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY
                            Tea    BrnAgn CONSERVATIVE  Mod/
                     Tot    Party  Evang  Very   Smwht  Lib    Men    Wom
 
Bush                  8%     1%     6%     3%    10%    15%     8%     9%
Carson               10      9      9     13      8      6      8     12
Christie              1      -      -      -      1      3      1      1
Cruz                  9     19     11     16      4      2      9      7
Fiorina               3      2      3      4      2      3      3      4
Graham                1      -      2      -      3      2      1      2
Huckabee              5      1      8      6      6      5      5      5
Jindal                3      3      3      4      1      2      2      4
Kasich                2      3      1      2      3      1      2      2
Pataki                -      -      -      -      -      -      -      -
Paul                  9      9      7      7      8     15     12      4
Perry                 4      6      7      5      5      2      5      4
Rubio                 7      4      6      5     13      6      6      9
Santorum              4      7      6      4      4      3      3      5
Trump                10     10      8      7     11     15      9     12
Walker               18     22     18     21     18     12     21     14
DK/NA                 5      3      4      4      4      8      4      6

phew. that's the latest quinnipiac poll

Walker with 18%, Trump tied with Carson at 10%. lol

who would have thought trump would have more support (in this fleeting instance) among women than men?

although one could just as easily write,

who would have thought trump would have more support among women than men at all?

RIP Pataki

is scott walker in the "we havent gotten sick of his bullshit yet" honeymoon phase with gop voters?

59% chose either Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Graham, Jindal, Perry, Carson, Paul, Santorum, Christie, or Trump

surprised to see Walker doing so well with the white evangelicals. i thought that was huckabee's thing?

is scott walker in the "we havent gotten sick of his bullshit yet" honeymoon phase with gop voters?

― not a garbageman, i am garbage, man (m bison), Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:34 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for what it's worth walker is having major problems dealing w/ his own party in wisconsin right now (he's moving /to their right/, if you can believe that!), which is reason #4,765 why scott walker is a horrible horrible candidate.

those m/f breakdowns are wild

trump beating j.e. bush maybe the most interesting thing long term. would be hilarious if he became the horse to beat and the whole primary process becomes an "anyone but trump" saga.

surprised to see Walker doing so well with the white evangelicals.

his anti-abortion rhetoric is off the chain

those m/f breakdowns are wild

GOP women are into bloviating blowhards with fake hair, little boys in oversized suits not so much

i think he also mooted a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage (!), which is pure dog whistle, since the chance of it actually happening is complete nil.

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walker polls better with the ultraconservatives, bush does better with the more "moderate" conservatives. not surprising. but that's an advantage for bush in the general election, right? assuming the logic that 90%+ of voters have already decided which team to vote for, so the focus is on the small chunk of voters in the "middle" that can be peeled away? although there's always the other argument, which is that the teams should pick the candidate who can motivate their base more and drive more of them to the polls on election day.

so basically trump for president

assuming the logic that 90%+ of voters have already decided which team to vote for, so the focus is on the small chunk of voters in the "middle" that can be peeled away?

well, that and motivating your base to vote, but that dynamic isn't as media friendly.

whoops that's what i get for accidentally skimming past your 2nd graf.

i have no idea who a "GOP woman" is after all those NYT feature interviews with The People that includes a red-state female who needs help via guvmint programs -- unemployed, kids, no health plan til ACA, bad diet -- whose central philosophy is "Obama is lettin' the whole world step all over us."

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i don't even know that either of those narratives is correct. i suppose it depends on the election and the candidates.

Bush (and the GOP Establishment) is going to have to spend a lot of money buying this primary season.

It's going to be Bush. Remember that in August '11 Bachmann dominated discussion after that bullshit Iowa strawman poll or whatever it's called.

I kinda can't see it being anybody but JE but man he has really fucked up so far

jeb kind of has it by default so maybe he's not taking it as seriously as he should

walker and rubio are the only two others that i can possibly imagine.

but yeah, jeb will take it, then lose. then the gop will finally learn that they need to nominate a TRUE conservative in 2020, and there will be at least 35 candidates

Bush will sweep in all the Pataki supporters when Pataki throws in the towel. There's his margin of victory for nomination!

pataki will NEVER throw in the towel, he's tenacious!

does Pataki even have a towel

he is currently searching for bed bath and beyond online coupons online, but none of them seem to work

Rubio won't get anywhere near the nomination. This fight will eventually come down to J.E. Bush and Scott (My Own Worst Enema) Walker.

Carly Fiona will stay in the race until she eventually has spent $488 of her own money for each primary vote she gets.

Rand Paul will hang on to his 62 pledged delegates to the last moment and try to use them to broker the convention.

Trump will act like he's still running after New Hampshire, but stop scheduling any campaign events.

Trump will file lawsuits against all the other candidates

but yeah, jeb will take it, then lose. then the gop will finally learn that they need to nominate a TRUE conservative in 2020, and there will be at least 35 candidates

― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surely some huge swath of GOP primary voters is already thinking this way, right? after mccain and romney? no reason this can't be their goldwater moment.

not so sure that Jeb! will take it over walker

Walker seems like an unknown quantity to the rest of the country (he certainly is to me, at least moreso than a lot of these other bozos), dunno if he can capitalize on that sufficiently to counter the JE establishment backing

J. Establishment Backing Bush.

"of the new hampshire Establishment Backings"

I dunno, Walker vs. public unions was pretty widely covered (esp. via Facebook memes.) Many of my friends are teachers, so he's kind of the personification of evil in the upper Midwest.

yeah but how many GOP primary voters, to the extent that they followed that, came away thinking of him as their new superhero?