TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

- drunk mayor so great, like 70's cop movie "whats the fuckin point we're fucked" Dirty Harry great.

- i kinda like the banality of the city politics and Vaughn's trynamakeit guy. His line readings are bad but there's something about him...he's like toxic algae, trying to grow & get along in a sludge pool. you dont want him to succeed but it's kinda fascinating that he would a) try or b) WANT to. And i love the desperation angle now that he knows he's got nothing: that makes ppl make crazy bad decisions :D

- rick springfield loool so good, behind the candelabra lizardperson realness

please dont have killed farrell

as entertained as i am by the season on some level, i'm wrapping up the season 1 pilot and there's more wit and rhythm in the first 20 minutes of that episode than there's going to be in all of season 2.

maybe this one will end better tho

yeah springfield was a highlight of the episode

the flowers, the big hug mug, making the car a place of silent reflection.

like, you can do the sucking a robot's dick line, but not the way they did it.

season 1 set a plot in motion and then made you love the characters, season 2 tried to put together a wikipedia on the characters before starting the plot.

ya. pretty much this.

yep

harrelson is a genius with deadpan delivery even back to Cheers days, a high bar set for s2

lol I forgot about the car as a place of silent reflection.

feel like comparing this to season 1 is pointless. they shoulda just named it something different like 'sad detective' or w/e

I hope there is a lot more of the mayor--there's a rust cohle vibe to the drunken poetry of the way he talks.

please dont have killed farrell
--difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl)

there is a bunch of farrell footage throughout the teasers that hasn't been seen in the two episodes and this would be a LOT of work for a misdirect. I think he's ok, but prob hospitalized for like 2 episodes

Still unsure about this; I like the loving shots of industrial landscapes and the To Live & Die in LA-like depiction of a polluted, corrupt city. It feels a bit lifeless, though, and the dialogue clunky. And I know that as a mystery it has to be deliberately vague about some things, but I'm surprised people are able to follow this, because much of it loses me. Perhaps partly it's the show's low energy that makes me zone out a little, but I had no clue what to make of some scenes in this. The Rachel McAdams' porn search scene? And that girl with the scarred face in the bar. I had no idea who she was or what that scene was about. She looks an intriguing character, though.

I think once you get past the distraction of it being Vince Vaughn, he's fine in the role. I really liked that scene where he was warning that bookie off after getting his thugs to attack him. Am liking Taylor Kitsch, too, though his character hasn't been well served as yet.

I was missing the folk horror imagery and weirdness of season 1, but there are small, strange touches to this season that are beginning to build up. An odd, inexplicable cut-away shot to a geod with a vaginal pattern, and a creepy Rick Springfield (reminded me of Rob Lowe's plastic-faced character in that Liberace thing last year). And of course the finale in the soundproofed house with masks on the wall - and a camera set up in another room. So, who was it wearing the Judex crow mask? Rachel McAdams' father?

btw http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/06/william-friedkin-bringing-to-live-and-die-in-l-a-to-the-small-screen.html

I couldn't tell if McAdams was looking for her webcam sister online, and whether she found her.

I thought they were just investigating places Casper might have used to get his girls

There was that, but then I wasn't sure if she wandered to something else. Or if the blurry hardcore was just part of her searching those sites.

this is ‘true detective’
clearly antigone is complicated guys
puritanically judges her sister (wd prefer her to be on drugs than sexcam)
hates her father
likes some kink in sex yet shuns intimacy
porn watching (close-up on her eye) involves true detective & sister-savior parts but also other stuff

virtually any scene involving any of the protagonists is obv & explicitly about their central psych issues (e.g. scars from the past); this is no exception
of course rick springfield knew her father & end of scene is about her childhood

her dad character is good love david morse

agree about character & actor (along with mayor, among best performances so far)

the true detectives shdve been mcadams-mayor-morse

mmm wd watch

btw the sad bar singer was back huh! my fav subplot will the sad singer be back what sad very sad song will she sing

u know that everyone would be talking over her sad sad songs, if true detective wwere more like TRUE LIFE

i liked it when they were in captain america's personal air hangar & it was three handsome true detectives w expensive hair & one shabby hangdog old guy, i feel like this ratio should be constant

sad cops listen to sad songs

sad cops shd only listen to eminem for max truth

Like a weekly Vonda Shepherd thing, with the cast joining in to sing Motown numbers, etc

"mamas don't let your babies grow up to be detectives"

& one shabby hangdog old guy

lol yes

this neeeeeeeeeds vonda shepherd

I assume they have her play to keep the crowd down so they can do criminal things unnoticed

one shabby hangdog old guy

w. earl brown! deadwood's own dan dority! he had that weariness even when he was a longhaired bruiser on that show, def an entrant into the character actor hall of fame

his shlump game on point here, ill fitting suit, shitty facial hair, posture - LOVE it

Fingers crossed for contacting Farrell via ouija board next ep.

Robot dick

Just to be insane could the bird man who shoots colin be related to the creepy Mardi gras ppl from S1?

Am I diminished?

Robot dick

signed,

robot dick

it's a paper mache world

Oh god I just remembered what this reminds me of in terms of vibe - does anyone tenderness Color of Night w Bruce Willis?

Remember not tenderness, my bad - Robot Dick

i don't remember that film, but google seems to enjoy autocompleting "color of" with "poop"

in shows/movies like this a character is only dead for real if they are explicitly brutally slaughtered..velcoro was only shot in the chest, bet he wore a vest

Just watched, I thought this was a lot better, even if it's still pretty drab compared to the first season.

The performances are still uneven though. I lol'd at Farrell's shrug to the "dualities" line a - a good comic bit, perfectly times. But he was so mushmouthed during other moments (the feminism line, the confession at the end) and I don't buy his convenient shift from sadsack to supercop.

Vaughan was actually totally okay this time 'round - the confession scene wasn't as embarrassing as I was expecting, and he was great in the car pullover scene. I feel like he could get better.

McAdams - it's unclear yet whether it's bad acting, or her character's just like that.

Also - I have hearing problems, so it's always hard for me to judge, but is the dialogue *really* difficult to hear?

Yeah Vaughn was prob best in the scene when he was being a menacing smart ass to the dude who just got his ass beat by Vaughn's thugs

― Heez, Monday, June 29, 2015 12:35 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

yeah this was otm

is max still reading this thread? would like to congratulate him for calling this months in advance

still, i can't stop watcing

lol ty

that being said, i have to admit that if this were some sleeper HBO thing without months of fawning pre-press i think i would be recommending it? with caveats, obviously. it isnt nearly as subtle or arresting as the first season (the unsung genius of which was, again, fukunaga!) but its also such an abstract formal exercise in a genre i really love that i can't look away. the dialogue is riding that line between lynch/ellroy/hammett opaque bluntess and self-important pure corn syrup.

i guess what im saying is, i hated this before it was cool to hate it, and now im going to like it before it gets cool to like it again.

v nice