even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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quietly

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)

and not to be discussed openly

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)

like in a blog article

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)

Jesus Christ she's a stay at home mom. Go back to work and you can probably afford that third kid you twit.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:15 (ten years ago)

ehhh idk about that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:19 (ten years ago)

She covers that in the article! Going back to work means they'd have to pay for childcare for all three kids, which would eat up the entire extra salary she would make as a teacher.

intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:22 (ten years ago)

haaaaa these comments

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:24 (ten years ago)

Emily Sue Lund · Chicago, Illinois
I couldn't even make it all the way through. It's terribly written and makes me wonder if her uterus aches because someone punched her in it after hearing her sad little tale of woe.
Reply · · 5 · about an hour ago

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:24 (ten years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:29 (ten years ago)

She covers that in the article! Going back to work means they'd have to pay for childcare for all three kids, which would eat up the entire extra salary she would make as a teacher.

I couldn't get that far.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:17 (ten years ago)

This is the American dream and we are in it, living it, every day, just the four of us.

I do appreciate her restraint in not adding "Fuck everyone else." to the end of that sentence.

That said, this is pretty standard issue upper middle class suburban nonsense from Elle magazine, not really on the same level as what fills up the read of this thread (the national paper of record's tendency to fill its pages with flattering puff pieces on the incredibly wealthy and actually powerful)

intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:28 (ten years ago)

the rest of this thread, I mean….not "the read of this thread"

intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:28 (ten years ago)

All these articles about how upper-middle class families save money with a stay-at-home parent, I'm not sure how my parents and every single family I grew up around (all two-worker working/middle class) managed to survive.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:29 (ten years ago)

I hope they pull the trigger on downsizing and it turns out she's infertile.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:30 (ten years ago)

If you're rich and think that you need to pay 15K per child per year in child care, then it saves money to have the teacher or nonprofit worker in your partnership be a stay-at-home parent while you go to the law firm or your IT job or whatever.

intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:33 (ten years ago)

Lest I sound too condescending there, I should note that I'm a teacher married to a nonprofit worker

intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:34 (ten years ago)

I have two kids and to be honest that's kind of a lot of kids

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 June 2015 00:06 (ten years ago)

I hope they pull the trigger on downsizing and it turns out she's infertile.

Oof I know this is a joke and these are horrible people but having been infertile myself it's a rough thing to wish on somebody, even in jest.

Also yeah I'd like to look at her cost breakdown of childcare. It's not cheap but would it really entirely offset a teacher's salary? Probably the childcare arrangements they would be willing to entertain would.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 26 June 2015 00:53 (ten years ago)

canned food for an entire year huh

j., Friday, 26 June 2015 02:51 (ten years ago)

The downsides of flying private

mookieproof, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:57 (ten years ago)

It's not cheap but would it really entirely offset a teacher's salary?

granted I live in San Francisco but it's not just teacher's salaries that this applies to. Just getting 40hr work week care would have totally eaten up my wife's insurance broker salary had she decided to keep working.

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:03 (ten years ago)

and I'm not talking some high-priced fancy facility childcare type deal, I mean like even home-based operations provided by neighbors would have taken the majority of her salary.

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:03 (ten years ago)

ha i was just about to ask that. the ability to do it in Colorado on fairly average salaries is largely dependent on the amenities/facilities/quality of care you want to provide.

i got to sit through two associates talking about the travails of nanny-finding and dealing with nanny-poaching not long ago. i wanted to spit and walk out the door by the time the meeting started.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Friday, 26 June 2015 20:09 (ten years ago)

I do find the nanny-culture disconcerting. I didn't know a single person that had a nanny growing up. now I'm surrounded by them.

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:17 (ten years ago)

rare case in which the comments are a good read

"I know exactly how she feels. I have a nice house and my kids are grown but I have 2 fishing boats. And I long for a bigger 48ft sportfishing boat."

marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:27 (ten years ago)

that private flying piece is magnificent

marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

Those services break down into four categories: chartering a jet, buying a set number of hours in a jet program, getting a fractional interest in a plane or putting down tens of millions of dollars for your own aircraft. Each one has its defenders and its detractors. But Mr. O’Leary says what matters the most is how a private plane is to be used, whether by just one person or several executives.

marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

He said the price could be as low as $5,000 an hour for an off-peak flight lasting five to six hours, and run up to $12,000 an hour for a short flight during peak time. But once that price is set, it doesn’t change. “If you pay $21,000 for the trip, we’ll get there whether it takes three hours or five hours,” he said.

marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)

is this part of uber yet?

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Friday, 26 June 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)

WonderSitter!

schwantz, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)

what a punchline there:

But as he tells his clients who wonder if the jet was a good purchase, “You own a 20,000 square-foot house in Bel Air. Did you need that space?” When they say no, he tells them: “The airplane is the same thing. Buy it because you can afford it and you want it.”

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 June 2015 03:08 (ten years ago)

there's something quiddities-esque about advertising the price of a lens in the story's headline.

Các yếu tố khác ảnh hưởng tới quỹ đạo Sao Diêm Vương (Eisbaer), Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:10 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

It's not nyt, and I know burning man has always been like this, but the gross images of the ruling class letting its hair down here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2015/07/31/zipporah_lomax_photographs_children_at_burning_man_in_her_book_dusty_playground.html

as one of the commenters said, "it's safer than Cabo"

Dan I., Friday, 31 July 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)

three weeks pass...

The Calming Quiet of Outer Cape Cod

A flock of artistic and literary types are finding summer refuge in Wellfleet and Truro.

calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:41 (ten years ago)

Surely the proper group plural is "a flutter of artistic and literary types."

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Friday, 28 August 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)

they always have! found summer refuge in wellfleet and truro.

scott seward, Friday, 28 August 2015 15:13 (ten years ago)

i highly recommend a trip here if you are in the area...

http://www.platinumpebble.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/small.193.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 28 August 2015 15:16 (ten years ago)

ooh that looks right up my ex's alley

calstars, Friday, 28 August 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/9/9275611/victorian-era-life

fuck. you.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:50 (ten years ago)

hey man, don't criticize what you can't understand

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:01 (ten years ago)

the times they are a changin'

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:01 (ten years ago)

back

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:02 (ten years ago)

fish in a barrel

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:39 (ten years ago)

I did briefly wish tuberculosis on the author after I read that original piece tho tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:40 (ten years ago)

Our heat comes from 19th-century gas heaters and from an antique kerosene space heater.

pls don't call a 21st century fire department to help you out if this goes wrong, it would not be historically accurate

computer champion (harbl), Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:50 (ten years ago)

Shakey otm. Also amazing that he writers name is onion.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)

This is why more people don't follow their dreams: They aren't wealthy and idle

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Thursday, 10 September 2015 23:57 (ten years ago)


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