Key theme of that article is that they're better than everyone, and that is what truly makes it unfair that they have to make basic human choices about finances.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
It's a strange mourning process I can't really discuss openly with others, mainly because people our age often don't plan as meticulously as we do.
It's our quiet sacrifice but it's also our beautiful life, well-earned and fully-lived.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Can't believe that isn't Clickhole.
― schwantz, Thursday, 25 June 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
We planned our family. It's something unique to us as superior people. We call it family planning. We're the first to ever think of it.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
quietly
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
and not to be discussed openly
like in a blog article
Jesus Christ she's a stay at home mom. Go back to work and you can probably afford that third kid you twit.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
ehhh idk about that
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
She covers that in the article! Going back to work means they'd have to pay for childcare for all three kids, which would eat up the entire extra salary she would make as a teacher.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
haaaaa these comments
― Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
Emily Sue Lund · Chicago, IllinoisI couldn't even make it all the way through. It's terribly written and makes me wonder if her uterus aches because someone punched her in it after hearing her sad little tale of woe.Reply · · 5 · about an hour ago
lol
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't get that far.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
This is the American dream and we are in it, living it, every day, just the four of us.
I do appreciate her restraint in not adding "Fuck everyone else." to the end of that sentence.
That said, this is pretty standard issue upper middle class suburban nonsense from Elle magazine, not really on the same level as what fills up the read of this thread (the national paper of record's tendency to fill its pages with flattering puff pieces on the incredibly wealthy and actually powerful)
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
the rest of this thread, I mean….not "the read of this thread"
All these articles about how upper-middle class families save money with a stay-at-home parent, I'm not sure how my parents and every single family I grew up around (all two-worker working/middle class) managed to survive.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
I hope they pull the trigger on downsizing and it turns out she's infertile.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link
If you're rich and think that you need to pay 15K per child per year in child care, then it saves money to have the teacher or nonprofit worker in your partnership be a stay-at-home parent while you go to the law firm or your IT job or whatever.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
Lest I sound too condescending there, I should note that I'm a teacher married to a nonprofit worker
― intheblanks, Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
I have two kids and to be honest that's kind of a lot of kids
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 June 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link
Oof I know this is a joke and these are horrible people but having been infertile myself it's a rough thing to wish on somebody, even in jest.
Also yeah I'd like to look at her cost breakdown of childcare. It's not cheap but would it really entirely offset a teacher's salary? Probably the childcare arrangements they would be willing to entertain would.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 26 June 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
canned food for an entire year huh
― j., Friday, 26 June 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link
The downsides of flying private
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
It's not cheap but would it really entirely offset a teacher's salary?
granted I live in San Francisco but it's not just teacher's salaries that this applies to. Just getting 40hr work week care would have totally eaten up my wife's insurance broker salary had she decided to keep working.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
and I'm not talking some high-priced fancy facility childcare type deal, I mean like even home-based operations provided by neighbors would have taken the majority of her salary.
ha i was just about to ask that. the ability to do it in Colorado on fairly average salaries is largely dependent on the amenities/facilities/quality of care you want to provide.
i got to sit through two associates talking about the travails of nanny-finding and dealing with nanny-poaching not long ago. i wanted to spit and walk out the door by the time the meeting started.
― wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Friday, 26 June 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
I do find the nanny-culture disconcerting. I didn't know a single person that had a nanny growing up. now I'm surrounded by them.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
rare case in which the comments are a good read
"I know exactly how she feels. I have a nice house and my kids are grown but I have 2 fishing boats. And I long for a bigger 48ft sportfishing boat."
― marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
that private flying piece is magnificent
― marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Those services break down into four categories: chartering a jet, buying a set number of hours in a jet program, getting a fractional interest in a plane or putting down tens of millions of dollars for your own aircraft. Each one has its defenders and its detractors. But Mr. O’Leary says what matters the most is how a private plane is to be used, whether by just one person or several executives.
He said the price could be as low as $5,000 an hour for an off-peak flight lasting five to six hours, and run up to $12,000 an hour for a short flight during peak time. But once that price is set, it doesn’t change. “If you pay $21,000 for the trip, we’ll get there whether it takes three hours or five hours,” he said.
― marcos, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
is this part of uber yet?
― wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Friday, 26 June 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
WonderSitter!
― schwantz, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
what a punchline there:
But as he tells his clients who wonder if the jet was a good purchase, “You own a 20,000 square-foot house in Bel Air. Did you need that space?” When they say no, he tells them: “The airplane is the same thing. Buy it because you can afford it and you want it.”
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 June 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
there's something quiddities-esque about advertising the price of a lens in the story's headline.
― Các yếu tố khác ảnh hưởng tới quỹ đạo Sao Diêm Vương (Eisbaer), Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
http://gawker.com/some-quotes-from-the-nyt-piece-on-bushwick-hipsters-mov-1717366238?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link
Ben was my last boss. Wow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/fashion/weddings/gabrielle-karol-and-benjamin-jacobs-after-years-of-breakup-regret-he-wins-back-the-one.html
― schwantz, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link
It's not nyt, and I know burning man has always been like this, but the gross images of the ruling class letting its hair down here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2015/07/31/zipporah_lomax_photographs_children_at_burning_man_in_her_book_dusty_playground.html
as one of the commenters said, "it's safer than Cabo"
― Dan I., Friday, 31 July 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
The Calming Quiet of Outer Cape Cod
A flock of artistic and literary types are finding summer refuge in Wellfleet and Truro.
― calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
Surely the proper group plural is "a flutter of artistic and literary types."
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Friday, 28 August 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
they always have! found summer refuge in wellfleet and truro.
― scott seward, Friday, 28 August 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
i highly recommend a trip here if you are in the area...
http://www.platinumpebble.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/small.193.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 28 August 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
ooh that looks right up my ex's alley
― calstars, Friday, 28 August 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/9/9275611/victorian-era-life
fuck. you.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
hey man, don't criticize what you can't understand
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
the times they are a changin'
back
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/history/2015/09/vox_victorians_sarah_a_chrisman_s_essay_on_living_like_a_victorian_is_preposterous.html
― schwantz, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
fish in a barrel
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link