TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

he slowed down before he swerved

xp I like the song...

should prob be performed by sharon van etten rather than a B-level sharon though

bar song written and recorded for the show http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/06/21/lera-lynn-on-making-music-for-the-true-detective-season-premiere

i liked when mcadams threw her plastic up at the casino bouncers

One ep in but this seems both dumb AND stupid which is a bummer

lol 'justin longness'

dunno about this

can’t decide if it’s interestingly stylized/ alienating piece of work or amusingly flawed (& what’s the diff)

all the actors might just as well be wearing tragic masks

that lynch-esque industrial hum/ wind-like sound (& thumps), accentuating dread/ uncanny, ran through virtually every scene, so it started to seem funny instead (yet toward end there were effective moments of dread/uncanny)

something entertainingly ridiculous about those ostentatiously damaged lost souls (thinking baout things) “assembling [into] kinda dysfunctional bureaucratic Avenger foursome”

wonder what sex thing antigone was into (‘sometimes’) that spooked guy
yes, plan to call her antigone
lol antigone & athena with father issues

is there new topographics influence in the cinematography?

one thing that worked in the first season that doesn't seem like it's going to happen here is that marty to act as a straight man of sorts for the weirder, more damaged rust. not sure who's going to fill a role like that here since none of these cops seem well-adjusted enough to be an audience stand-in.

also, i don't know what actor could save some of the lines vince vaughan had to deliver but it's not vince vaughan.

anal stuff seemed properly thematic xp

As a more-or-less uncritical fan of the first season, I thought this was awful. It’s so dour it might as well be a DC Comics superhero movie - it’s like bad Howard Chaykin.

Not a single good performance, either – Farrell and McAdams out of their comfort zones and knowing it on their faces; Kitsch and Vaughan just actively bad. Vaughan was good when he wasn’t speaking, though.

that pretty much sums up my take. I laughed uproariously after farrell used brass knuckles to beat the father of the kid who was bullying his son following the "mother's headless corpse" line. like yeah, we get it! he's not a nice guy! how many underlines do you think are required here for appropriate emphasis?

Yeah, that was scene that made me think of Chaykin -- although really it's more like bad Frank Miller.

vince Vaughn reminding me of all those noir heavies as played by Raymond Burr. Farrell was Farrell which is expected. R. McAdams is just a shitty "actress" in everything. John Carter, Warlord of Mars a total blank.

Still - I enjoyed this mess.

Chaykin is a v good call. Altho he would've included at least one jewish character lol

it is mostly good and often smart and sometimes dumb and in a few instances/and aspects objectively bad.

Sounds kinda like Faulkner, Ellroy, anyone with a distinct style swinging for the fences.

Story of the real town that's the model for Vinci: population 100, with city officials earning more than $1 million a year.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-vernon-true-detective-20150619-story.html

so – what was the bike cop guy referencing when he asked about "Black Mountain"? i couldn't find anything about it.

some dark shit prob

Doubt it was the Black Mountain School

xxp assuming it's some private security/blackwater type shit

he is, literally, scarred by his past

how did dude's boner go down so fast after the viagra is my main problem

Doubt it was the Black Mountain School

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 15:38 (1 hour ago) Permalink

plllleeeeeease

What?

Covering similar geography, this is a lot better than the Luck pilot, especially in reining in the auteur flourishes when setting up a season-length story.

Also, that father/son dictaphone is going to lead to no good.

this is a lot better than the Luck pilot

wtf no

fewer dead horses tho

luck was crappy. this was....not exactly crappy, but not exactly good either.

at times it seemed like a parody of everything else; the killing, the fall, true detective, Mulholland Drive.

oh yeah luck, that's why 'mayor austin chessani' looked familiar

luck was better; dennis farina, come on

twin peaks (dictaphone)

speaking of farina, a few times during the premiere i felt like i was watching a heavily stylized episode of L&O, esp when they're talking to a witness and they use the same 'naturalistic' cadences that every interview in L&O have

Luck was 100000x better, if only because Milch dialogue >>>>> Pizzo dialogue. (Also much more interesting to look at.)

lol colin farrell has a failson

as soon as the failson and his bullies appeared I literally said to the buddy I was watching it with "oh man please let Colin Farrell beat up a child". Show m/l delivered on that count.

otm re dialogue. character interactions on luck felt 'real', in short time built & conveyed sense of characters' shared worlds. dialogue on td2 feels so strange-- yes like stylized l&o, or like characters speaking to each other aren't even in same room/space with each other (maybe point is they're all living in their own isolated worlds/heads)

its pretty unfair to compare any dialogue to milch's because almost all of it pales in comparison, even on shows i like better overall than luck and deadwood tbh

And John from Cincinnati!

Luck was so good! There is this scene where three of the degenerate gamblers (btw, why is it always called 'degenerate' gamblers?) go to feed carrots to their horse, while the fourth is off playing poker. And Kevin Dunn says, without irony, something like "Stupid idiot. Trying to make money when he could be here with us feeding carrots to a horse" I think about that sentiment quite a lot.

but i'm glad people havent forgotten luck! had to end for obvious reasons but coulda been something truly great

it helped that Milch knew that millieu inside and out and was able to filter it through his very specific sensibilities, whereas this is a made-up macho fantasy land we've seen before, and done better xxxp

pretty sure raymond chandler was in the oil industry before he started writing. the noir genre has always included a lot of fantasy. tho i'm sure working for the pinkertons helped hammett

"btw, why is it always called 'degenerate' gamblers?"

If you ever worked as a betting shop manager you would get some insight into this!

I don't think the dialogue is signficantly worse this season, but the acting has to be the lousiest I've seen in a big-deal TV show like this.

Doubt it was the Black Mountain School

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 15:38 (1 hour ago) Permalink

plllleeeeeease

― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:53 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw i meant yes i want it to go in this direction

Would be awesome haha.

/this is a lot better than the Luck pilot/

wtf no

The luck pilot was so good, it never lived up to it tho

True Detective seems to be written by a dumb person who hasn't had any interesting life experiences. Good TV tho.

This was terrible. That end scene with everyone looking at each other like "looks like us fucked up people are gonna get into some fucked up stuff, huh?"