Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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told!

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:27 (eleven years ago)

:) you're not wrong, amst. but you can always read critical theory as strange kind of fiction, like borges story

really it's just midrash upon midrash ad infinitum all the way down & around (no ground text), taking apart & generating fables & metaphors

drash, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:58 (eleven years ago)

http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/liberalism-as-drama

review of a new 'chronicle' of liberalism by an economist (a the economist) dude

Thus Fawcett, a learned and polyglot former journalist, has set out to write not a “philosophy” of liberalism, but a “chronicle” of it: a series of dynamic adaptations and compromises. Liberalism retains four core ideas: the inescapability of social conflict; a distrust of power, whether political, social, or economic; faith in human progress; and “respect for people whatever they think and whoever they are.” Tracking those ideas, liberalism consistently seeks an ethical order without divine authority or tradition; an economic order without monopolies and local barriers; an international order of treaties and trade rather than force; and a political order without absolute authorities or unchecked powers.

What gives liberalism its variety and variability is not only the need to adapt to constant change but also the tension among these four ideas. Abandon any one of them and you’re no longer fully a liberal. Yet combining and vindicating all of them at once requires intellectual skill and political nerve. Fawcett, then, sees liberalism’s “endurance and life” as the work of thinkers who embodied skill and nerve — who creatively combined these ideas, in ways that differed across countries and times — and of leaders who pursued them all at once.

j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:09 (eleven years ago)

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/against-students/

Sarah Ahmed on fantasies of the "problem student" ("the consuming student, the censoring student, the over-sensitive student, and the complaining student"):

The figure of the censoring student who pushes unwanted speakers off campus exists in close relation to the consuming student. Both work to create an impression that students have all the power to decide what is being taught as well as what is not being taught, what is being spoken about, as well as what is not being spoken about; and that this power is at the expense not only of dons and departments, but also politicians, journalists, and other public figures. [...] Yet the instances of apparent censorship (translate: student protests) seem to generate more discourse and discussion rather than preventing discourse or discussion. So much high-profile speech and writing is generated by those who claim they are silenced!
But we can still ask: what is the figure of the censoring student doing? By hearing student critique as censorship, the content of that critique is pushed aside. When you hear a challenge as an attempt at censorship you do not have to engage with the challenge. You do not even have to say anything of substance because you assume the challenge is without substance.
In the first instance, critique and contestation (“they want the wrong courses!”) is dismissed as consumerism; in the second instance, protest (“they don’t want the right people!”) is dismissed as censorship.

one way street, Monday, 29 June 2015 16:59 (eleven years ago)

in the second instance, protest (“they don’t want the right people!”) is dismissed as censorship.

that description overlooks the fact that at times a group of protesting students will imperiously demand that an invited speaker not be allowed to come or to speak, based on their critique of that speaker's views, which in fairness can be described as an effort to censor, but given the fact that no group of students is empowered to veto an invited speaker this effort toward censorship is limited to the critique and is powerless aside from its persuasion.

it is probably good to remember that one of the acceptable definitions of 'to censor' is 'to label as morally repugnant'. it doesn't always mean 'to forcibly suppress'.

Aimless, Monday, 29 June 2015 17:20 (eleven years ago)

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-regulating-sex.html?referrer=&_r=0

not really sure where this belongs, but this threads seems as good as any.

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 June 2015 18:06 (eleven years ago)

in the second instance, protest (“they don’t want the right people!”) is dismissed as censorship.

that description overlooks the fact that at times a group of protesting students will imperiously demand that an invited speaker not be allowed to come or to speak, based on their critique of that speaker's views, which in fairness can be described as an effort to censor, but given the fact that no group of students is empowered to veto an invited speaker this effort toward censorship is limited to the critique and is powerless aside from its persuasion.

it is probably good to remember that one of the acceptable definitions of 'to censor' is 'to label as morally repugnant'. it doesn't always mean 'to forcibly suppress'.

― Aimless, Monday, June 29, 2015 12:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, and i think the sum total of this sort of thing over the decades is that the type of speaker who is frequently invited to campus has indeed narrowed.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 18:28 (eleven years ago)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/06/30/lsu_professor_fired_over_f_word_p_word_off_color_joke_finally_academia_s.html


It would be one thing if Buchanan had woven said profanity into a slur. But she didn’t. She said “Fuck no,” something I have also done in class on numerous occasions, to only mild titters. She used the word pussy to denote cowardice, something I have also done in class, albeit in reference to Faust, who 100 percent is one. She also made an off-color joke to students, that their partners might become less supportive as the sexual intensity of their relationships waned (an offense that deserves a talking-to).

For all this, after an 11-hour hearing, a committee of Buchanan’s peers concluded that she be officially censured (which is not the same as “censored,” except in this case it is), and never use “potentially offensive language” in the classroom again. But the LSU administration found that already-Draconian punishment insufficient. Buchanan actually got fired. Please inure your sensitive dispositions to my French, but this is re-goddamned-diculous.

j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 00:31 (eleven years ago)

yikes! i swear a fair bit in class. why would anyone be bothered by that?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:24 (eleven years ago)

although it sounds like the off-color joke rather than the f-word got her fired. still. jeez!

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:25 (eleven years ago)

The reports suggest that the decision came directly from chancellor and there isn't any obvious evidence any of the students complained.

who epitomises beta better than (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:33 (eleven years ago)

yes apparently the termination letter cites the classroom language, but there's talk about her function in public education having more to do with it?

j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:49 (eleven years ago)

sounds like the chancellor found a convenient excuse to fire someone they'd wanted to fire for ages

Aimless, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:58 (eleven years ago)

Tbh calling someone a "pussy" in class is unacceptable imo--not grounds for FIRING, necessarily, but way more offensive than "swearing" as such.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:00 (eleven years ago)

that probably took 5 or 6 of the hours in the 11-hour hearing to hash out

j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:03 (eleven years ago)

depends on context i'd think. calling a student a pussy? unacceptable pretty much no matter what. male professor calling a public figure/character a pussy? problematic, but not as bad. female professor? kind of weird to get upset about that

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:04 (eleven years ago)

aimless probably otm, sounds like a vendetta

so much for being "down with the kids"

goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:09 (eleven years ago)

an 11-hour hearing is the most offensive part imo

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:11 (eleven years ago)

agree with io there, its not hard to avoid shit like this in work/classroom settings ffs

irl lol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:12 (eleven years ago)

There are a bunch of offensive terms for people that we don't even use ON THIS BAORD no matter who we are, ffs, some of which were in frequent rotation up until a few years ago when some posters asked that we stop! It's not impossible, you just have to give a shit. A gendered & gender-patrolling slur like "pussy" has no place in any community that even PRETENDS not to be made up of assholes.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:34 (eleven years ago)

i doubt those were the LSU president's concerns

goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:42 (eleven years ago)

xp - the right answer is to ask the person to stop using the term. you don't step in and fire them from their job before you give them a chance to change.

Aimless, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:44 (eleven years ago)

she had me at "fuck no"

hunangarage, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:51 (eleven years ago)

can a female professor say the b-word?

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:51 (eleven years ago)

That's the wrong question. The question is, Is an atmosphere where sexist, gendered, racist, homophobic insults are used a desirable environment for your college/business/what have you? And if the answer is No, then What kind of steps do you need to change to constructively change that environment to one in which such words & actions aren't normalized?

Institutional or community-wide culture change isn't really about individuals imo.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:58 (eleven years ago)

i think we all agree that her calling someone (anyone; even a fictional personage) a "pussy" was very bad judgement. but a firing offense? if that was a firing offense, there wouldn't be a single football or basketball coach employed at an institution of higher education.*

*ugh, don't get me started on double standards for athletic dept. employees.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:05 (eleven years ago)

but yes this stinks of someone waiting for the professor to step out of line in order to fire them.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:06 (eleven years ago)

this event seems to be very much about an individual!

xps

goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:07 (eleven years ago)

no idea what prof buchanan is "really like;" what we do know is that her firing was based on no student complaint and done over the recommendation of a faculty investigative panel that recommended censure

perhaps she had a long history of this kind of rough talk that came up to the administration outside of official channels. you can imagine anything, if you want

goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:09 (eleven years ago)

the story in the advocate indicates that the president's read of the evidence is pretty tendentious

Buchanan was fired even though a committee of five faculty members that presided over an 11-hour dismissal review hearing held on March 9 recommended that she keep her job.

While the committee found that her adult language and humor violated university policies that protect students and employees from sexual harassment, it found no evidence Buchanan’s comments were “systematically directed at any individual.”

The committee recommended she be censured and agree to quit using “potentially offensive language and jokes” that some found offensive.

The committee also faulted the university for failing to have the chair of Buchanan’s department work to resolve her behavior prior to having the Human Resources Office investigate.

LSU President and Chancellor F. King Alexander rejected the faculty committee’s recommendation that Buchanan be censured and instead urged the LSU Board of Supervisors to dismiss her.

In an April 2 letter to Buchanan, Alexander pointed to the committee’s finding that she had engaged in sexual harassment but didn’t mention that the committee had recommended censure, not termination.

The chancellor also cited an allegation that Buchanan had violated a student’s rights under the federal Americans With Disabilities Act, an allegation the committee had rejected as “not substantiated by testimony.”

goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:11 (eleven years ago)

The chancellor also cited an allegation that Buchanan had violated a student’s rights under the federal Americans With Disabilities Act, an allegation the committee had rejected as “not substantiated by testimony.”

oooh

example (crüt), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:16 (eleven years ago)

btw does merely saying 'fuck no' (not in response to a student but in re. a discussion of a work of literature) create a hostile working environment? in that case the word 'fuck' is so far removed from its sexual meaning that i would argue it doesn't carry any sexual connotation whatsoever. no more than saying 'shit! this projector is broken' is alluding to coprophilia.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:17 (eleven years ago)

any breach of a norm of propriety may be perceived as hostile for a variety of legitimate or illegitimate reasons

j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:22 (eleven years ago)

sure

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:08 (eleven years ago)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/30/zandria-robinson-univ-of-memphis-professor-whitene/

supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:39 (eleven years ago)

she had already accepted another job a while back

the university reporting that she no longer works for them is not stating that she was fired

when this popped up on twitter yesterday and under the hashtag i saw loads of academic/twitter activists being all 'i am outraged' before they realized any of that, it put online-outrage-mongering in really sharp perspective

j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:44 (eleven years ago)

"we need a more nuanced intersectional reading of the thing," says the professor whose twitter condemnations lack all nuance

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:55 (eleven years ago)

http://www.thenation.com/article/211337/professor-was-fired-saying-fuck-no-class#

this article mentions a lot of recent creepy-liberalism-in-academia events, going all the way back to patti adler's 'prostitution lecture', but it also contains different reporting about theresa buchanan

Recently, there’s been much discussion of what some say is a growing intellectual chill and sexual panic on campus. In the latest example, on June 19, Teresa Buchanan, a tenured associate professor of education at Louisiana State University, was fired from the school where she’d taught for twenty years for using off-color language. Her alleged offenses included saying, in class, “fuck no” and making a joke about sex declining in long-term relationships, as well as using the word “pussy” in an off-campus conversation with a teacher. Reached by phone, she says she had no memory of saying “pussy” to anyone, but said that, if she did, it likely would have been in a conversation about how teachers must learn to handle irate parents. “If a parent is very angry and says, ‘You need to do a better job, you little pussy,” you need to know how to react. I wasn’t calling anybody that word.”

j., Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:39 (eleven years ago)

From the Nation article:

The student, he learned, was threatening to bring him up on sexual harassment charges. “Oh, I felt unsafe,” he whines, imitating her. The director, he says, told him, “I know this is bullshit, you know this is total bullshit, since you’re gay, but you really don’t want to deal with this bullshit. Just give her the grade.”

Bizarre to leave uncriticized the claim that gay dudes are incapable of creating a toxic atmosphere for women.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:15 (eleven years ago)

that guy sounds like an A+ asshole

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:17 (eleven years ago)

Honestly, being the kind of teacher who prides himself on his blunt truth-telling and likes to pull out the "whiny little girl" voice is positively correlated with running a classroom that's crap for women, though obviously I know nothing about this guy in particular.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:17 (eleven years ago)

I also think that "student programmed to hyperachieve will do anything to avoid a B+" has much more to do with this story than "political correctness gone mad."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:18 (eleven years ago)

yup

so many students seem completely crestfallen when they get anything lower than an A (or sometimes an A-) which is so weird to me

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:22 (eleven years ago)

She also jokingly told some of her female students that that they shouldn’t expect their boyfriends to keep helping them out with their coursework after the sex gets stale.

Seems to me the faculty response to this is totally right: you don't get fired for this, but seriously, cut that shit out, it is unprofessional and gross.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:23 (eleven years ago)

A toxic combination of an increasing dependence on financial aid, overachieving, and obsessive parents, in my experience.

xpost

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:24 (eleven years ago)

to be honest in my experience it's not the financial-aid kids who are the worst grade-grubbers

it's the UMC (or rich) kids who really want to make their parents happy (and/or get them off their backs, which is the same thing)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:27 (eleven years ago)

of course my experience is specific to big midwestern state flagship universities

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:28 (eleven years ago)

people treat colleges like the DMV or frankly the justice system - vaguely wanting harsh 'rigor' for everyone else but a careful and supporting environment for themselves or their kids

i say this as a general observation; i have no sense of whether the charges against levinson are true

goole, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:37 (eleven years ago)

The argument I hear most is the student who needs the A- because h/she "might lose" the aid. My usual response: you don't just lose your aid thanks to one class -- are you failing the others AND did badly last semester?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:40 (eleven years ago)


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