Tapering myself off slowly--hoping to be at zero by the end of August. Not quitting forever, I don't think--but I'm not in a position to fully control my drinking right now, and that has to change.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:46 (ten years ago)
godspeed, HOOS!
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:48 (ten years ago)
good feels to you, hoos. Hit me up anytime if you want to meet for non-drinky distractions!
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:05 (ten years ago)
be well, hoos
― goole, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)
i wonder how yeahloggedout is doing
― just1n3, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:08 (ten years ago)
courage hoos
― Killarney Hilton (darraghmac), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)
gl hoos
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)
it's been almost a year, feel like it's probably permanent, grateful i didn't need aa meetings. the stability has been essential to me becoming half of the mess i was. good luck hoos.
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)
rooting for you hoos, i don't think there's one royal road to getting control so weigh up your strategies and go with whatever works best for you
― Twee Speech and Crepey Literalism (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/Responsible-Drinking-Moderation-Management-Approach/dp/1572242949/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434397008&sr=1-1&keywords=responsible+drinking
^^^worth a look while you take a break (or don't)
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:38 (ten years ago)
Good decision, hoos. Much better to reassert control while control is still in reach. Good luck. Just stay focused on the goal and the reasons for it and you'll be fine.
― Aimless, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)
Responsible Drinking Paperback – 21 Jul 2003
Most Helpful Customer ReviewsTwo StarsBy puremince on 23 May 2015
Useful pints but never worked for me
― 乒gl乓 (nakhchivan), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:09 (ten years ago)
hahaha that is too perfect
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:12 (ten years ago)
but for real some of my fellow social work stoodents have worked in the substance use disorder (aka SUD, the term now replacing "substance abuse" in professional circles) field and harm reduction/other non-abstinence-based methodologies are a viable, evidence-based alternative to AA and the like.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:14 (ten years ago)
:)
it does look like a useful book though
good wishes of course.....
― 乒gl乓 (nakhchivan), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:15 (ten years ago)
thanks, everyone.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:35 (ten years ago)
Recent interview-based research indicated that tobacco was the most common gateway for alcohol and other addictions. I found that quitting cigs made quitting booze much easier. Did go more or less cold turkey re both, but not simultaneously. But, booze-wise, I was pretty much a weekend warrior/fule anyway. As indicated upthread, v. dangerous to go cold turkey on your own, in many cases (Townes Van Zandt died of a heart attack that way).
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:54 (ten years ago)
"useful pints" made my day
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:15 (ten years ago)
Somebody pointed me to SMART Recovery, and that's given me just the kind of framework I'm looking for--I've got a plan now that's gonna lead me to a period of sobriety starting in September. To, through & from there I'll figure out how to deal with the things that make me drink. Once I've made that something I can control confidently, no matter how long that takes, I might welcome myself to a beer again.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:46 (ten years ago)
This is an excerpt from an article on James Taylor that I've kept around to help me with my own demons:
"Well, when I cleaned up some 17 odd years ago, I felt terrible inside my own skin for about six months," Taylor says. "And the only thing that gave me any real relief was - was strenuous physical activity. It made me feel good for a while. Maybe it's endorphins, or whatever. I sort of swapped addictions and got into...physical exercise."
Today he at least appears to be a poster boy for the 12-step road to recovery.
"When you say I - I seem like a, you know, a - a sort of solid, rock-solid image of sanity, you know, it doesn't feel that way to me, especially when I wake up at, you know, 5 o'clock in the morning, you know, you know, anxious," Taylor reveals.
He describes his anxiety: "It doesn't seem to - to matter what it is."
"(Itseems to be, yeah, free-floating anxiety that'll attach to anything," Taylor explains."The difference, essentially, is that I know that it doesn't last forever."
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:57 (ten years ago)
Echoing the good wishes for hoos (though, just sayin, it might be easier if your name didn't rhyme with booze).
From what I read lately, the current wisdom does seem to be shifting, allowing greater space for tapering and moderation as possibilities (vs. the all-or-nothing MUSTness and in-yo-face religiosity of AA).This recent Atlantic piece is an example.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:30 (ten years ago)
Yeah I read that great article a while ago, it's part of why I sought out other approaches.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)
Big Booze AKA The Harddrinker
― supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:28 (ten years ago)
Sorry
you could atone w/ a good 'designated driver' hoosjoke
― j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:35 (ten years ago)
thanks for linking that article xps
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:27 (ten years ago)
The Finns are famously private
lol
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:29 (ten years ago)
haaaaaaaa
― designated hitler (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)
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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:24 (ten years ago)
Does hoos really rhyme with booze or have I been saying one of those wrong for awhile
― fear of a nakh pan itt (wins), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:51 (ten years ago)
gl btw hoos
― fear of a nakh pan itt (wins), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:55 (ten years ago)
how else would u say hooz
― designated hitler (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:56 (ten years ago)
Hoose, like a Scottish house
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:08 (ten years ago)
or hoh-uhs like noos
(best wishes hoos)
― drash, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:52 (ten years ago)
hoos like the gow
― j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:58 (ten years ago)
^^^ the correct way, based on Hoos's explanation of its origin.
― nickn, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:59 (ten years ago)
if you say it with the Spanish s it is soft, like "hooss" instead of "hooze"
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:12 (ten years ago)
a hoos by any other name
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:14 (ten years ago)
go get em hoos; i quit drinking a few years ago and am happier for it.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:51 (ten years ago)
I've been through the desert on a hoos with no name
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:51 (ten years ago)
fie, xpost
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:52 (ten years ago)
hoos, your're gonna turn into forks, do with that knowledge what you will
― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:12 (ten years ago)
celebrate and live happily ime/imo
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:34 (ten years ago)
hey hoos, how do u feel abt pottery
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:35 (ten years ago)
wouldn't trust it as far as he could throw it
― back once again with the panel behaviour (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2015 04:16 (ten years ago)
teeehee
best of luck, hoos.
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 June 2015 04:21 (ten years ago)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:35 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um i dunno...its cool to put stuff in?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 June 2015 05:58 (ten years ago)
that's the spirit
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 06:00 (ten years ago)
or, you know, lack thereof
haa
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 June 2015 06:02 (ten years ago)