Rolling Obituary Thread: 2015

rip Bugliosi

Helter Skelter still a great, terrifying read.

Arturo Vega, the artistic director and historian for the Ramones (he created the famous Ramones seal)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/arturo-vega-ramones-logo-designer-dead-at-65-20130610

RIP Arturo... as we said 2 years ago when he passed.

I thought that sounded familiar. Sorry, popped up on my Twitter feed today.

i randomly picked up bugliosi's book on the oj simpson trial a few months ago and sped through it in a day or two. it's an amazing read -- it's barely about the trial at all; it's more bugliosi using the subject as an excuse to rail against everything under the sun and go into (fascinating) detail about how to build a successful prosecution. should probably finally get around to helter skelter, i think i'm the last person left in america who hasn't read it.

Second to last; I bought a copy years ago but never got around to reading it. I was 12 when the murders happened, and one of the things I remember about the trial is that Manson referred to Bugliosi as "bug." (Plus the swastikas, uncharged Manson girls gathering around the courthouse, LIFE magazine cover).

i read it first when i was 13 - i was such a goob, i told everyone it wasnt even the "real" story and that the lawyer was just in the pocket of The Man, maaan

u_u

then i read "charlie: in his own words" and was like oh fuck yeah right he's BANANAS

:( at Jean Gruault

James Last
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g503fR3BvVk

i've never read Skelter because nearly all 'true crime' I've tried is too decadent and ultimately numbing in its ugliness for me to stick with. Manson is not compelling to me, just his warped followers, somewhat.

it's pretty good, Manson comes off more pathetic than interesting (which feels accurate to me)

I've always been intrigued by how someone like him could gather so many followers. He never seemed that charismatic in any interview, but I guess he knew who to target and how to get to them.

He was a pimp, no more no less.

Exactly.

The Jeff Guinn Manson biog is especially good on Manson's feral ability to exploit the vulnerable and gullible, his technique a freakish admixture of Dale Carnegie, Scientology and general hippy bullshit.

Similarly, Bugliosi's OJ book is best read in conjunction with the Lawrence Schiller book.

i remember an interview Bugliosi gave around the time of the book's release, and what i remember was his mixture of disbelief and anger, both primarily aimed at the prosecution iirc. i realize their collective incompetence was received wisdom but i remember him breaking down in these really devastating ways just how bad they were. i don't know if the book was the same, i should read it.

morbs, helter is in the upper level of true crime because of how un-fascinated bugliosi is with manson. there's a lot of detail & examination but there's a crucial long view that tempers the normal voyeuristic true crime

even if you skip the whole first section & just read the trial story, it's p worthwhile. the trial alone was bananas

the Chicago 7 or 11 is more my speed

JUST READ IT FFS

:)

https://lesoreillesentrelesyeux.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/chicago-xvi-16.jpg

RIP Bill "Mr. Stress" Miller (aka the "Mr. Stress" from The Pretenders' "Precious")
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_music_world_mourns_l.html#incart_river

Ron Moody

I thought he'd died decades ago!

Christopher Lee :-(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/christopher-lee-dead-legendary-actor-passes-away-at-the-age-of-93-10312947.html

Oh man, RIP Christopher :(

Oh shit!

oh boy, one more nonagenarian for the rule of three

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWFujuasmUo

RIP C Lee

i know he was 93 but i kind of assumed christopher lee was going to live forever - really sad news. wonder if we'll finally find out what he got up to in the secret service in wwii now?

Be careful what you wish for:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0OfbVRRDMDA/maxresdefault.jpg

i for one welcome our new immortal overlord christopher lee

Ornette Coleman, apparently. What a day...

what the hell. rip ornette :(

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ornette-coleman-dead-20150611-column.html

This bears repeating, loudly and frequently:

“Now I didn’t call the music I was doing ‘free jazz,’” Coleman told the Tribune in 2003. “Someone [at the Atlantic record label] named it that, put a Jackson Pollack painting on it and called it ‘Free Jazz.’”

aw fuck

Zapf Dingbat guy?

Morbs close enough, his fault

Pioneering cookery broadcaster Marguerite Patten

the american dream

:(

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2980664/dusty-rhodes-dances-o.gif

Pioneering cookery broadcaster Marguerite Patten

One of those great misheard lyrics (or not?) was I always thought that's who Lou mentioned in "Run run run"

country singer Randy 'All American Redneck' Howard (wanted on multiple charges of DUI and possessing a firearm while intoxicated) shot to death in a gunfight with an unlicensed bail enforcement agent

America

NASA Gemini/Apollo launch commentator Jack King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OBKOlgmfo

America

― rallizes mcguire (unregistered), Saturday, 13 June 2015 18:35 (Yesterday)

Did you mean 'MURRICA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯'?

only just found out via the radio that Ron Moody and James Last have died in the last couple of days, what a crappy week

Madame Carven

Blaze Starr, Baltimore burlesque queen

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/obituaries/bs-md-ob-blaze-starr-20150615-story.html#page=1