the Amy Schumer thread

well I guess i'm not smart enough to get the hilarious self referential humor of kroll show bcuz i fuckin hate that shit so much but this show just feels like more of the same as far as style and humor idk i will take the maura route and bow out now lol.

Kroll makes fun of the production of the types of shows he parodies by copying them exactly, if that's what you mean.

I totally feel you on the Mad TV-esque nature of these CC sketch shows. It's like people who don't quite understand comedy producing a show based on focus group info ('people really seem to like real-life interstitials!'). There are funny people on the shows, but they don't often feel quite like the shows those funny people would prefer to be making if they had more QC (note: have not seen any Kroll Show).

And while that sort of thing isn't exactly rare in the context of TV as a whole, it feels a bit more noteworthy on a channel with Comedy in the name.

i would put K&P several notches above these other shows, their production is sublime at points. the jazz dance aerobics horror thing last season was one of the best things they've ever done

kroll show on the other hand apes what it's (i guess) parodying so closely it's painful for me to watch period. i can't get into the guy or the material at all

schumer has some good sketches and I even appreciate some of the "OH SHE WENT THERE"/jezebel broadness, but it's hard for me to shake the impressions from that early racist stand-up

Kroll Show might've worked for me more with other leads, but when you hate Nick Kroll and Jenny Slate there's no use in even trying to watch it.

lol see I loved Kroll show but don't get K&P! Admittedly I only watched a couple sketches but just couldn't get into it at all.

k&p has gotten increasingly hit and miss, and the segues were always pandering if occasionally charming. as far as the editing goes if you don't like the "hip" post-mtv house style then yeah...it's a cable network aimed at young people. no denying it. kroll's definitely the most self-aware on that front, though - also the only one to stop itself when it started getting repetitive.

kroll also had the tightest focus of any of these shows - basically a love letter to shitty current tv

the irony is that while its aesthetic was almost identical to sctv, i think the average sctv fan has no interest in reality tv parodies even louder than the real thing

kroll's definitely the most self-aware on that front, though - also the only one to stop itself when it started getting repetitive.

― da croupier, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:39 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'stop itself' just means 'got the lowest ratings and wasn't renewed' right

lol no, ratings were pretty good but he said from the start he didn't want to do more than 3 seasons

i mean maybe the line that Kroll chose to end is true, i dunno. his father's a billionaire, he doesn't need to cling to a tv show.

i do have to give Comedy Central some credit, for like 10 years they'd quickly cancel anything that wasn't an instant South Park-level hit, when they finally stopped doing that they were able to foster all these shows that grew in popularity over time.

i mean maybe the line that Kroll chose to end is true

he said so publicly on a podcast he did w/ grantland right before season 3 started

I mean I don't wanna give him TOO much credit for realizing his cult show was running on relative fumes and ending it. Cuz he probably makes more money elsewhere and apparently doesn't need it anyway.

can not even imagine hating my bae jenny slate smh

I can if someone only knows her from snl - just as I can imagine someone hating mulaney if they only know him from his fox show

yeah i didn't like Slate on SNL much but she won me over with Obvious Child/Kroll Show/Married etc

I barely remember her on SNL. It's mostly from Parks & Rec and what I've seen of her on Kroll Show and I also think Marcel the Shell is kind of dumb.

Shit. I keep meaning to watch obvious child.

I loved Tina Tina Chaneuse

dear god Trainwreck is teal and orange

Amy Schumer's show is pretty good, there's something about it that bothers me and I really can't figure out what it is. I wanna say it's narcissism or navel gazing but it's not that.

as far as CC sketch Broad City is the best of the bunch imo.

HAS ANYONE SEEN THAT SHOW WITH CUBA GOODING JR oops caps

it's pretty terrible.

broad city isn't sketch

I've seen the last few minutes of several episodes when I change to CC for The Daily Show. It seems equally ambitious and ridiculous, but not enough make me add it to the dvr. xps

yeah Big Time In Hollywood, FL is just lame. i don't know how those guys got the budget to do a crazy polished-looking action comedy or how they got Ben Stiller in the pilot or anything but they're just never funny ever.

did you see the movie or read a quote or are you just extrapolating from the trailer?

― da croupier, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

trailer

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love that the discussion continued after this

I love that this thread was so usefully spun off from the Comedy Central thread.

yeah Big Time In Hollywood, FL is just lame. i don't know how those guys got the budget to do a crazy polished-looking action comedy or how they got Ben Stiller in the pilot or anything but they're just never funny ever.

is that the show by the Next Time On Lonny guys? Next Time On Lonny was funny and occasionally weirdly expensive-looking. If it is, they probably got Ben Stiller in the pilot because he produces it, like he appeared in a Next Time On Lonny video when he started producing it.

Next Time, On Lonny.

Amy Schumer responded on Sunday via Twitter to allegations of a racial blind spot in her comedy, writing: “Stick with me and trust me that I’m joking. I go in and out of playing an irreverent idiot. That includes making dumb jokes involving race …You can call it a “blind spot for racism” or “lazy” but you are wrong. It is a joke and it is funny … I am not going to start joking about safe material.”

Oh it was a joke! I get it now

I'm not sure irreverence combines all that well with idiocy to produce some very special brand of humor.

Been a bit weaker since the hiatus

After watching 2 long sets of her recent, excellent standup, I'm a big fan.

I bristled against the bits and pieces of her work I'd seen up til now, but maybe every brilliant provocateur provokes this kind of response at first blush.

and there were race jokes aplenty in those sets, but none seemed to have true racism/hate at their core

True Racism Detective

Been a bit weaker since the hiatus

― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:10 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol they have run 1 episode since taking 2 weeks off

nix the "true" qualifier xp

Xp yeah and that episode was notably weaker

LMFAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5DSSjTeJZE

teaser for next weeks - the timing of this killed me

"i don't think we should see each other anymore"
"is this about my three buttholes"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/07/06/dont-believe-her-defenders-amy-schumers-jokes-are-racist/?tid=pm_opinions_pop_b

not a great piece or anything but nice to see her being called on her shit

America’s soil of racism is fed by jokes and incendiary speeches, by stereotypical images and symbols like the Confederate flag. Just as Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump and other members of the Republican Party regularly disparage people of color and claim they are simply telling the truth, Schumer can use comedy as a protective shroud to deny the harm and hurt caused by her jokes. A joke is considered benign especially when told by a supposed white liberal feminist. We can distance ourselves from the anger, from the harm, from the ideology, and from the hatred of the “extreme,” but also find comfort in the same anger, ideology and hatred that is “just a joke.”

This rhetoric isn’t just ugly. It contributes to a worldview that justifies a broken immigration system, mass incarceration, divestment from inner city communities, that rationalizes inequality and buttresses persistent segregation and violence. Yet nobody wants to take responsibility for spewing rhetoric that breeds the fear that results in soaring gun purchases, that “inspires” monsters like Dylann Roof to craft a manifesto with deadly consequences.

I am no one's Amy Schumer expert but the one standup bit I saw that was being passed around as super racist seemed to me to pretty obviously point towards her as the avatar making the racist statement as the butt of the joke. Everything else I've seen has been funny feminist stuff.

which bit was that

one of these?

for all things Comedy Central

ftr i have't worked out a clear response to the argument i quoted above