from the same director - eminem in funny people, billie joe in this is 40
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
when I first heard schumer's stand-up it was prob as part of one of the CC roasts, like her infamous joke about ryan dunn's death and was like "oh, a woman doing jeff ross bullshit, greeaaaaat." or worse, a less openly and unapologetically racist lisa lampanelli.
her sketches since then esp. recently are much more nuanced and interesting and probably valuable
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
wait, bill hader and lebron james used to date? this explains so much.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
that said I also agree w a lot of what maura said in terms of her being jezebel catnip/an easily memeable delivery system for what are obviously important ideas and how that can leave people cold/skeptical
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
she was great on the bachelorette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsT8JCHx08U
contestant: "sometimes i think i'm just too smart for 90% of the audience...it gets me in trouble..."
amy: "i wanna make you feel better...you're not"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
jezebel catnip/an easily memeable delivery system for what are obviously important ideas
ok yeah but if she plays any part in getting those important ideas out to a wider audience who might not not have been exposed to or thought about them otherwise then i'm all for it
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
How basic can she be really she was once in a student move with some dude
― supreme problematics (D-40), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
well the school we went to (Towson University) was full of basics. she seemed cool to me at the time, though i can't say i had any clue she'd develop the comedic voice she has.
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
cool politics and groundbreaking ideas aside, i feel this show falls victim to the annoying, cringey, mad tv style of filming/editing that all these terrible cc shows are guilty of. kroll show, key and peele, even broad city (do we really need like... dance montages set to dubstep all the fucking time?). like that beauty pageant sketch... that shit is douchechill inducing in its execution.
― Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
hah well Kroll show totally does all that on purpose, it's always been part of the joke (and is often the joke)
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
so like.. he's making fun of funny or die or something? i dont think it's THAT self aware
― Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I think Kroll Show in particular is EXACTLY that self-aware!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
well I guess i'm not smart enough to get the hilarious self referential humor of kroll show bcuz i fuckin hate that shit so much but this show just feels like more of the same as far as style and humor idk i will take the maura route and bow out now lol.
― Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
Kroll makes fun of the production of the types of shows he parodies by copying them exactly, if that's what you mean.
― Evan, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I totally feel you on the Mad TV-esque nature of these CC sketch shows. It's like people who don't quite understand comedy producing a show based on focus group info ('people really seem to like real-life interstitials!'). There are funny people on the shows, but they don't often feel quite like the shows those funny people would prefer to be making if they had more QC (note: have not seen any Kroll Show).
― Tarkus Aurelius (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
And while that sort of thing isn't exactly rare in the context of TV as a whole, it feels a bit more noteworthy on a channel with Comedy in the name.
― Tarkus Aurelius (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
i would put K&P several notches above these other shows, their production is sublime at points. the jazz dance aerobics horror thing last season was one of the best things they've ever done
kroll show on the other hand apes what it's (i guess) parodying so closely it's painful for me to watch period. i can't get into the guy or the material at all
schumer has some good sketches and I even appreciate some of the "OH SHE WENT THERE"/jezebel broadness, but it's hard for me to shake the impressions from that early racist stand-up
― Nhex, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
Kroll Show might've worked for me more with other leads, but when you hate Nick Kroll and Jenny Slate there's no use in even trying to watch it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
lol see I loved Kroll show but don't get K&P! Admittedly I only watched a couple sketches but just couldn't get into it at all.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
k&p has gotten increasingly hit and miss, and the segues were always pandering if occasionally charming. as far as the editing goes if you don't like the "hip" post-mtv house style then yeah...it's a cable network aimed at young people. no denying it. kroll's definitely the most self-aware on that front, though - also the only one to stop itself when it started getting repetitive.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
kroll also had the tightest focus of any of these shows - basically a love letter to shitty current tv
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
the irony is that while its aesthetic was almost identical to sctv, i think the average sctv fan has no interest in reality tv parodies even louder than the real thing
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
kroll's definitely the most self-aware on that front, though - also the only one to stop itself when it started getting repetitive.
― da croupier, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:39 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
'stop itself' just means 'got the lowest ratings and wasn't renewed' right
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
lol no, ratings were pretty good but he said from the start he didn't want to do more than 3 seasons
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
i mean maybe the line that Kroll chose to end is true, i dunno. his father's a billionaire, he doesn't need to cling to a tv show.
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
i do have to give Comedy Central some credit, for like 10 years they'd quickly cancel anything that wasn't an instant South Park-level hit, when they finally stopped doing that they were able to foster all these shows that grew in popularity over time.
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
i mean maybe the line that Kroll chose to end is true
he said so publicly on a podcast he did w/ grantland right before season 3 started
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
I mean I don't wanna give him TOO much credit for realizing his cult show was running on relative fumes and ending it. Cuz he probably makes more money elsewhere and apparently doesn't need it anyway.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
can not even imagine hating my bae jenny slate smh
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I can if someone only knows her from snl - just as I can imagine someone hating mulaney if they only know him from his fox show
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah i didn't like Slate on SNL much but she won me over with Obvious Child/Kroll Show/Married etc
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
I barely remember her on SNL. It's mostly from Parks & Rec and what I've seen of her on Kroll Show and I also think Marcel the Shell is kind of dumb.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Shit. I keep meaning to watch obvious child.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
I loved Tina Tina Chaneuse
― DJP, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
dear god Trainwreck is teal and orange
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Amy Schumer's show is pretty good, there's something about it that bothers me and I really can't figure out what it is. I wanna say it's narcissism or navel gazing but it's not that.
as far as CC sketch Broad City is the best of the bunch imo.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
HAS ANYONE SEEN THAT SHOW WITH CUBA GOODING JR oops caps
― Cory Sklar, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty terrible.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
broad city isn't sketch
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
I've seen the last few minutes of several episodes when I change to CC for The Daily Show. It seems equally ambitious and ridiculous, but not enough make me add it to the dvr. xps
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah Big Time In Hollywood, FL is just lame. i don't know how those guys got the budget to do a crazy polished-looking action comedy or how they got Ben Stiller in the pilot or anything but they're just never funny ever.
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
did you see the movie or read a quote or are you just extrapolating from the trailer?― da croupier, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinktrailer― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― da croupier, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
trailer
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 4:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I love that the discussion continued after this
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
I love that this thread was so usefully spun off from the Comedy Central thread.
is that the show by the Next Time On Lonny guys? Next Time On Lonny was funny and occasionally weirdly expensive-looking. If it is, they probably got Ben Stiller in the pilot because he produces it, like he appeared in a Next Time On Lonny video when he started producing it.
Next Time, On Lonny.
― ( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
Amy Schumer responded on Sunday via Twitter to allegations of a racial blind spot in her comedy, writing: “Stick with me and trust me that I’m joking. I go in and out of playing an irreverent idiot. That includes making dumb jokes involving race …You can call it a “blind spot for racism” or “lazy” but you are wrong. It is a joke and it is funny … I am not going to start joking about safe material.”
― hunangarage, Sunday, 28 June 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Oh it was a joke! I get it now
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
I'm not sure irreverence combines all that well with idiocy to produce some very special brand of humor.
― Aimless, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Been a bit weaker since the hiatus
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
After watching 2 long sets of her recent, excellent standup, I'm a big fan.
I bristled against the bits and pieces of her work I'd seen up til now, but maybe every brilliant provocateur provokes this kind of response at first blush.
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
and there were race jokes aplenty in those sets, but none seemed to have true racism/hate at their core
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
True Racism Detective
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link