the Amy Schumer thread

I dont see much of a critique in her material, baffled by that interpretation tbh.

(I dont know any moms that like her fwiw but will conduct more scientific survey and report back)

the p., v. d. in the c.

waht

you don't see any critique of male attitude towards women in Inside Amy Schumer? how much of this show have you watched again?

There's some of that yeah but thomp explicitly claiming a much broader critique

I've seen some posters in the subway, am I entitled to strong opinions about the show?

And i think she indulges and exploits male gaze as much as she critiques it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpsI8mWKmg

only a little critique here

She's a-ok w the racism dominant in the culture industry, for ex.

Xp

How so?

the p., v. d. in the c.
waht

― example (crüt), Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:59 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Crut, it took me a while too. ""women in their late 20s and early 30s who share the politics and values dominant in the culture industry".

I misread it initially as "the p., v. c. on the t's."

fair

ohhh, thank you!

dominant values, daring assumptions

lol djp i read it as piv

i think she's kind of basic? like all those mommybloggers who call their sites 'mommy needs vodka' or whatever. but, you know, i might feel differently if all the content mills out there weren't going all hyperbolically nuts on her every move, especially the most norm-reinforcing ones, like the recent speech where she's like 'i'm 160 lbs and i can still get laid!' great, have a cookie? or don't, it might push you to 161.

also, would she have any traction at all if she didn't fit the female beauty norm in every way that wasn't the size of her upper arms? let's be real here.

It will be interesting to see how her material evolves over time. Right now, she's writing almost entirely for people like herself - women in their late 20s and early 30s who share the politics and values dominant in the culture industry. (Similarly, Louis CK writes for people like himself - middle-aged men at sea in a world that cares less and less about them with each passing day.) Schumer's material is targeted at an audience that writes lots of thinkpieces for high-profile web outlets, so she's having a moment. The interesting question is, what will a 35- or 40-year-old Amy Schumer talk about? Are there (m)any female comedians aiming at a middle-aged female audience? (I genuinely don't know.)

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:34 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This post is still killing me, btw.

why? it's not wrong.

at least in its demographic points.

well yes things comedians say sound lame if you take out the parts that make them funny

wait huh? i read that to mean that her brand of comedy is very of a piece with a certain dominant aesthetic in online media.

THE JEZEBEL EFFECT IS REAL.

(lol)

anyway whatever i just feel like she's being hailed for being a lot more revolutionary than she actually is. i'm not so into the slight update of gender norms ('look sexy but with stuff from etsy that says 'KILL ALL MEN' on it !!' that is pop feminism in 2015, so kill me.

It will be interesting to see how her material evolves over time. Right now, she's writing almost entirely for people like herself - women in their late 20s and early 30s who share the politics and values dominant in the culture industry. (Similarly, Louis CK writes for people like himself - middle-aged men at sea in a world that cares less and less about them with each passing day.) Schumer's material is targeted at an audience that writes lots of thinkpieces for high-profile web outlets, so she's having a moment. The interesting question is, what will a 35- or 40-year-old Amy Schumer talk about? Are there (m)any female comedians aiming at a middle-aged female audience? (I genuinely don't know.)

1.) No, not exactly. No more than Key & Peele are writing for mixed-race men in their late 20s and early 30s.

2.) Her material is targeted at an audience who write lots of thinkpieces? Is that why it's on Comedy Central between the Ashley Madison ads?

3.) I dunno where to start. How about any successful comedian from SNL in the last 10 years who isn't Will Ferrrell?

oh cmon you can't think that 'virality' isn't part of a marketing plan these days

also sketch comedy is a pretty different world than sitcoms!

A John Oliver takedown of Amy Schumer would freeze my Facebook page.

Now THERE'S your online thinkpiece guy.

going to guess you don't read much media 'for women'

(and you shouldn't, it's mostly terrible and patronizing. ask polly is great though)

she made a lengthy sketch piece about income equality with a call to arms to visit the Institute for Women's Policy Research; that seems fairly revolutionary
http://notcoolwithit.com/

i get the "why is she in every thinkpiece all of a sudden" backlash but a lot of her material really is clever and groundbreaking

not comparing her to him, but reading the recent Richard Pryor bio I'm amazed when ppl dismiss comedy purely on the basis of "unfunny subject matter." They'd get the torches out for RP and Carlin today.

(RP of course did terrible things to women offstage, but we can do that another time)

"norm-reinforcing ones, like the recent speech where she's like 'i'm 160 lbs and i can still get laid!' great, have a cookie? or don't, it might push you to 161"

The whole 160 lb. thing was supposedly a boxing metaphor and reference to a comment that Ellie Goulding (who had spoken just before her) made about punching above her weight in reference to whatever dude she's dating. I think people are making way too much about that comment considering it was supposedly just an off the cuff remark to something someone else said.

she made a lengthy sketch piece about income equality with a call to arms to visit the Institute for Women's Policy Research; that seems fairly revolutionary
http://notcoolwithit.com/

― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's these sort of things (ass also the birth control stuff) that play a large part in why I like her and think she's pretty great.

The "Milk Milk Lemonade" video worked great in that fundamental way of taking something objectified everywhere in pop music and video and de-objectifying it.

(ass also the birth control stuff)

err I have no idea how that typo happened - I meant to write "see also".

meh. i am bowing out of this discussion. it's ok to be left cold by things.

All great thoughts though, maura - whether she's basic or meta-basic.

it's totally ok to be left cold by things of course and intelligent people disagree. i find her rolling pr campaign and media blitz WAY more annoying than almost anything she's actually done on stage/on tv
i thought the "I'm sorry" bit was excellent too
the amy goes deep segments tend to be really worthwhile imo. conversations with folks in an open relationship, trans women, sex workers done as casual one-on-one bullshit over drinks opens up people outside of that accessible culture in, say, greenbrier tennessee to a big world that they otherwise can't really see.

of course it's ok to be left cold by things!

She seems more important than funny. Glad she is substituting edgy/baiting comedy w important satire but her comedy is a bit heavy handed for me, I prefer a quicker wit a la Sarah Silverman.

i'll admit i haven't been driven to see her recent viral hits because the praise has been more of the "finally! someone said it!" than the "LOL" - and she definitely came off a little eager-to-shock initially. but whether or not she's groundbreaking i think she's funny and think its cool she's getting a little more pointed - just hope it doesn't get to that margaret cho point where there's more applause than laughter. hopeful for that trainwreck movie.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2015/05/25/amy-schumer-and-the-rise-of-the-woman-crush/

lol cho getting thirsty there

yeah i remember seeing some of her early standup somewhere before all the hoopla and it was reeeally heavy on the racially queasy stuff

The thing that bugs me most about Trainwreck is that they decided a black friend was needed and then they decided to critique the need of a black friend by going all the way and casting Lebron James as himself. I get it. Um, haha.

Probably too off topic for this thread, but something about that seems both "unh, really?" and "try less hard next time."

did you see the movie or read a quote or are you just extrapolating from the trailer?