well it sure as hell was for me! They potentially murdered 75% of the cast in the cliffhanger for last season and we're not gonna check in with them even once?
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
you americans, always rushing everything, never savoring
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
Again, I'm saying I appreciated their willingness to cut against the grain of that sentiment.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
I felt like there was a pretty slow pace to about half the episode. As far as the overarching plot goes, sure, we're in media res
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
in the shit
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
I am not sure about the Eddie Izzard inner dinner party debate sequences. It's an interesting way to illustrate what Hannibal asked Bedelia about her anticipation of others' emotions and actions, but I hope it's not ongoing. Not that it could be, as he was about spent as far as limbs go.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Bonsoir
i think it was to emphasize how much hannibal craves an audience
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
The casting of someone recognizable as the patient Hannibal sent to Bedelia to bait them into a murderous situation seems to indicate we might see more flashbacks to her grooming
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
great episode tho, hallucinatory/non-chronological vibe was really effective - as was the switching between 1.85 and full widescreen for present vs. past respectively
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
The look on Anderson's face when she's told her diet is what Romans fed animals to make them tastier, well...
When in Rome...
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
i thought the izzard sequences are meant to suggest that hannibal could very well be preparing bedelia for eating and that she's acutely aware of that possibility but is trapped in a self-destructive cycle that he's constructed for herhave we ever seen hannibal engage in sexual activity? he seems to full of himself to allow it. it occurred to me that the sound of mads and gillian fucking would be that of a cello being bowed by a leather gloved hand.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
they were pretty clear he was in a sexual relationship with Alana Bloom
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
yeah, but only as a manipulation? i guess i'm asking if this guy has sex for pleasure and the answer is likely obviously no; the pointed turning away at bedelia's bath felt meaningful... "it's definitely not that kind of party"
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
yeah remember the dream-space five way w/ alana hannibal will margot verger and...the antler demon? lol
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
i think he's capable of experience sexual pleasure but it prob is not something he thinks about much or prioritizes though so i m/l agree w you forks
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
eating people is much more u&k
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/06/hannibal-lecters-enduring-appeal/394967/
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
director of the premiere on the visual inspirations/coloring/imagery etc. http://www.vulture.com/2015/06/hannibal-most-avant-garde-season-yet.html?mid=twitter_vulture
SLIGHT SPOILER w/r/t a character who hasnt been seen yet - only in that there's an image of them that iirc was in the trailers, but just figured i'd attach the warning
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
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and how much he wants that audience to be Will. Bedelia's a distraction and she knows it. (In Bryan Fuller-speak, Hannibal wants his murder husband, not murder wife.)
I did like how Eddie Izzard had one less limb every time they cut to a new flashback/hallucination scene.
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't it implied before that Hannibal was the one who killed Zach Quinto's character? And that at some point, he made Bedelia believe that she was the one who did it, in the same way he made Will think he killed Abigail?
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
yes.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Ohhhhhh I had missed that.
I feel like I need to rewatch previous seasons but I don't know if I can handle it.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
i would love to rewatch this whole thing sometime soon. maybe when it wraps.no word on a season four yet right?
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
the florence shots are scrumptious
― Mordy, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
snails on the hand was maybe the most beautifully nauseating thing I have seen
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
i like that the show's aesthetics are similarly nihilistic or amoral as hannibal's - treating blood, death, snails feasting on hands w/ the same lavish attention as champagne, the duomo, a faucet. and those totems that blur the lines - the dante illustrations, the museum-displayed torture items, the upside down rabbit in the meat shop
― Mordy, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
oh man that lucifer slide over hannibal's faceno other show on television is as well filmed, no other show is even close
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link
omg yes the rabbit
so much of the show's aesthetic to food & flesh reminds me of the 17th (?) century Vanitas paintings, skulls and rotting fruit in lush detail
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
xp otm
― slothroprhymes, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link
The graphicness of the cooking is a turn off to me. I wish they could manage some subtlety.
― calstars, Saturday, 6 June 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
O_o. no wai that's the best part! imo
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah big fan of that stuff personally
― Spottie, Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
LOL subtlety.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Sunday, 7 June 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/607363465091510272
― ultimate american sock (mh), Sunday, 7 June 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
not sure if the hide-and-seek scene was necessary but it provided some good dramatic tension
I will be downloading a copy of this episode this weekend due to the fact we had storms in my area and the local television station helpfully had the storm alert banner at the bottom of the screen for the ENTIRE EPISODE
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 12 June 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
is it just me or was that episode even more gruesome than usual? so much squick
also replaying the scenes from last season's finale is some kind of sadistic storytelling
― Roz, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
I wanted to believe in living Abigail
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
I felt something was up when Will woke up in hospital. Hospital rooms don't look like that!!
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link
I missed this because I had some kind of 24 hr stomach bug and there was just no way.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
wise choice there, this episode was pretty much nightmare fuel from start to finish
― Roz, Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link
lol tbf there are never any rooms in Hannibal that look like regular places.
Thought it was weird that the priest looked at Abigail in the church. Though maybe he was looking at Will?
I think he was looking at will talking to himself
the heart-leg-cronenbergian thing: aaaaaaaaauuugggghhhhh
― slothroprhymes, Saturday, 13 June 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link
The priest was looking at Abigail and she was looking back. The brief allusion to Don Giovanni at the end of the episode, the constant talk of God and other worlds, makes it clear that Abigail was really there, but (and this is a wild oversimplification) as an angel or ghost. They seek vengeance, ya know.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 13 June 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
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what if hannibal told cheesy jokes instead of implying cannibalism
― Clay, Thursday, 18 June 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link
omg
this is the best thing
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 June 2015 05:03 (nine years ago) link
the will graham reactions kill me
― Clay, Thursday, 18 June 2015 05:26 (nine years ago) link
Okay that is fantastic.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 18 June 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link
I just watched the season premiere -- twice, to figure out what was going on. Some of it was intentionally confusing, I think: they only call Dr. Fell "Roman" in the first scene and then they don't explicitly show his death.
There were five time periods and besides the Izzard scenes I initially had a hard time telling between them:RIP Zachary QuintoEddie Izzard eats himself.In France, Hannibal meets Dimmond and kills Mr. & Mrs. Fell offscreen.In the US, Bedelia meets Hannibal in her house.In Italy, Hannibal poses as Fell and kills Dimmond.
Hannibal also kills a curator which isn't seen. I don't know what was up with Bedelia buying stuff and being taped.
I hope they keep this up. Great sound in this episode too.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Friday, 19 June 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
Hannibal washing Bedelia's hair was practically an ASMR video.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 20 June 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link