Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh5s2AGdGAx8GKBZxe

:D

j., Monday, 1 June 2015 14:31 (eleven years ago)

tl;dr: heather macdonald of the manhattan institute is a cheap liar

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/02/ferguson-crime-wave_n_7494372.html

goole, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:31 (eleven years ago)

Wow, that is really loathsome. Would love to see if there's any response from the WaPo or author, but figure this will just get swept aside as a matter of 'subjective interpretation' or something.

And of course there are whole other essays to be written on the jump from ''there's this (actually fictitious) crime wave'' to ''well it's probably because protestors made everybody mad at the police.'' I mean, the sinister intentions of that 'argument/ are apparent, but it doesn't even make sense in crazytown: someone robs a gas station or kills their spouse, well, probably it's because some agitators stirred them up against the police. What? Does the Washington Post even have editors?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:45 (eleven years ago)

no, just Amazon interns

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:46 (eleven years ago)

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tamir-rice-shooting-investigation-moves-to-cuyahoga-county-prosecutors-office?fd

i wasn't expecting anything different but still

, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 19:36 (eleven years ago)

:(

, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 19:36 (eleven years ago)

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:08 (eleven years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-chief-20150607-story.html#page=2

interview with the interim ferguson police chief

it is some bullshit-ass bullshit, if you feel like reading some of that

j., Sunday, 7 June 2015 14:23 (eleven years ago)

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ I really couldn't put it any better than this

IIRC Seattle & Los Angeles PDs have recently adopted policies specifically geared towards changing this (by holding police accountable [at least in theory] for their decisions & actions prior to the actual split-second decision re: use of deadly force) but idk if any officers have actually faced sanctions as a result

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:31 (eleven years ago)

... but obviously, it would take a complete overhaul of our police force & healthcare system to really deal with mental illness in a productive way

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:35 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE

cop starts waving his gun around at 3'10"

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Sunday, 7 June 2015 20:06 (eleven years ago)

there's a long list of things i'd like to do to that cop.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:46 (eleven years ago)

what a terrible human being

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 03:47 (eleven years ago)

This is more "correctional facility brutality" but I am disheartened that this story is the first I remember reading about his young man: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/kalief-browder-1993-2015

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:46 (eleven years ago)

yeah I've been following his story since that first new yorker article -- such a heartbreaking end for a young man who demonstrated so much resilience in the face of adversity

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:48 (eleven years ago)

Ta-Nehisi Coates writes about him:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/the-brief-and-tragic-life-of-kalief-browder/395156/

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:54 (eleven years ago)

xp I hate to say this because ugh, respectability politics, but... I hold out some (naive?) hope that Kalief Browder's tragedy might touch even those who dismiss Eric Garner & Michael Brown because they were 'no angels'

of course that's little consolation to his family, & none whatsoever to Kalief himself. RIP to a brave young man who was forced to go through hell and did everything in his power to make it through :(

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:58 (eleven years ago)

Who knew that South Carolina would be the state that was a leader on indicting police for murder?

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:29 (eleven years ago)

leader on covering their ass when there's a video that no one could ever lie away

j., Monday, 8 June 2015 16:35 (eleven years ago)

as opposed to New York

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:37 (eleven years ago)

plenty of videos get lied away

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:40 (eleven years ago)

read the url as "police-officer-who-shot-scott-walker"

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 June 2015 17:10 (eleven years ago)

wishful thinking

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:24 (eleven years ago)

oh, Bratton

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/bratton-hiring-black-nypd-officers-criminal-records

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 03:00 (eleven years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/us/texas-officer-was-under-stress-when-he-arrived-at-pool-party-lawyer-says.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

honestly a quiet resignation and apology seems like the best thing imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:39 (eleven years ago)

that Texas cop was obviously playing some kind of combat hero in his own mind, witness the ridiculous and pointless barrel roll he did while running to the scene of the "crime"

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:50 (eleven years ago)

surprised he didn't twirl his gun around on his index finger honestly

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:51 (eleven years ago)

i mean it's possible to feel for him if he really did go through that shit earlier in the day and still think that if he can't handle that without abusing people he has no business being a cop and probably should be in heavy therapy

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:55 (eleven years ago)

I like how that other cop was being chill with that other dude in the background. heard a couple "are you alright's" I think

Spottie, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:16 (eleven years ago)

I do have legit sympathy for the cop re: the items he witnessed earlier, but to amateurist's point, it comes with the job and can't turn you into a different person later in your shift. I mean there's a reason they have the whole psych evaluation, y'know.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:23 (eleven years ago)

Bratton backtracking / claiming to be misquoted

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:36 (eleven years ago)

“He never intended to mistreat anyone, but was only reacting to a situation and the challenges that it presented,” Ms. Bishkin said. “He apologizes to all who were offended.”

He pulled a gun on children. I can't stop thinking about how much worse it could have gotten.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:56 (eleven years ago)

It goes a lot deeper than taking offence.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:57 (eleven years ago)

standard non-apology apology

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:07 (eleven years ago)

I feel sympathy if he was stressed out, but he didn't just take it out on some kids. He specifically took it out on the black kids, while apparently ignoring the white kids.

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:19 (eleven years ago)

According to his statement, he took it out on one white kid too. So there you go, racism is over.

DJP, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:33 (eleven years ago)

Apparently steroid abuse is a big problem among cops. I mean just look at how different his composure is than the other cops and the teenagers. It's like he's full of just barely contained rage. He just doesn't seem to be in any normal frame of mind at all.

what_have_you, Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:18 (eleven years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/article/insecure-frustrated-bully-with-something-to-prove--33427

bag lady bag (mattresslessness), Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:30 (eleven years ago)

It is so depressing to see white supremacists come out of the woodwork again to "support the police". I mean, if you check these people's tweets and affiliations, they're into extreme gun politics and real Klan-type "defend our white neighborhood" stuff. And these police groups say NOTHING about it, so I have zero sympathy for them. Look who defends their crybaby attitude!

Fake Sam's Club Membership (I M Losted), Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:37 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tSqbdZp.jpg

del griffith, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:40 (eleven years ago)

latest gotcha moment by the pro-police crowd for that really horrible attack on the police station in Dallas last night: http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/fredricka-whitfield-cnn-apology-dallas-gunman-controversy-1201519467/

even though context makes clear that she was clearly saying the attacks were audacious and fearless, not praising them (and although they're often used that way, brave and courageous aren't technically inherently 'positive' adjectives). Poor choice of words, for sure, and an apology is warranted, but of course the whole net's in an uproar over what was likely a spur of the moment statement that didn't come out the way the anchor intended.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 14 June 2015 18:56 (eleven years ago)

"You don’t start firing into a car full of unarmed people,” Berman told the Reporter. “You just don’t do that.”

hmm dunno if the evidence supports ya here yr honor

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:27 (eleven years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/19/nicholas-thomas-shot-in-back-police

, Friday, 19 June 2015 21:44 (eleven years ago)

two blocks away from last night, the police shot a guy in the head after he flagged them down and then "extended a towel-wrapped arm towards them". The cops told him to put down the gun and then shot him. Anyway, unarmed OF COURSE.

nomar, Saturday, 20 June 2015 16:10 (eleven years ago)

video showed him with a big head wound and the cops flipping him over and cuffing him. He's still alive somehow.

nomar, Saturday, 20 June 2015 16:12 (eleven years ago)


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