as they say, We'll See
The Cleveland Police Department, which has become a flash point in the racially charged debate over police tactics, has agreed to follow some of the most exacting standards in the nation over how and when its officers can use force, and will accept close oversight to make sure those rules are not ignored, city and federal officials said Tuesday.
The agreement is part of a settlement with the Justice Department over what federal officials have called a pattern of unconstitutional policing and abuse in Cleveland. The Justice Department found that police officers here used stun guns inappropriately, punched and kicked unarmed people, and shot at people who posed no threat. The incidents often went unreported and uninvestigated, investigators found.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/us/cleveland-police-accept-use-of-force-rules-in-justice-dept-deal.html
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah, what happens when they don't meet these standards will be the test
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
judging by how it's gone in oakland, they might see some improvement in about ten years.
― wmlynch, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
http://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/7/71/587596/judge-wont-seal-photo-cpd-cops-posing-african-american-man-antlers
― 龜, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 12:09 (nine years ago) link
Herbert also compared the photo to an episode of “Seinfeld” in which Jerry is wrongly accused of picking his nose.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
He even questioned whether the guns were really broomsticks carved to look like weapons.
― NotKnowPotato (stevie), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
fuck those guys
― DJP, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
jesus fuck, reset humanity
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
in the grand scheme of things, Lynndie England is a worse human being than these guys, but fuck them anyway
― DJP, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
well at least one of them's in prison for 12 years
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
sad lol at note about dashboard cam footage at the bottom
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/william-chapman-unarmed-shot-dead
― 龜, Monday, 1 June 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#
― Andy K, Monday, 1 June 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh5s2AGdGAx8GKBZxe
:D
― j., Monday, 1 June 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
tl;dr: heather macdonald of the manhattan institute is a cheap liar
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/02/ferguson-crime-wave_n_7494372.html
― goole, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Wow, that is really loathsome. Would love to see if there's any response from the WaPo or author, but figure this will just get swept aside as a matter of 'subjective interpretation' or something.
And of course there are whole other essays to be written on the jump from ''there's this (actually fictitious) crime wave'' to ''well it's probably because protestors made everybody mad at the police.'' I mean, the sinister intentions of that 'argument/ are apparent, but it doesn't even make sense in crazytown: someone robs a gas station or kills their spouse, well, probably it's because some agitators stirred them up against the police. What? Does the Washington Post even have editors?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
no, just Amazon interns
― sleeve, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tamir-rice-shooting-investigation-moves-to-cuyahoga-county-prosecutors-office?fd
i wasn't expecting anything different but still
― 龜, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
:(
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/06/ezell_ford_lapd_concludes_killing_of_unarmed_mentally_ill_man_was_justified.html
― 龜, Saturday, 6 June 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.
perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-chief-20150607-story.html#page=2
interview with the interim ferguson police chief
it is some bullshit-ass bullshit, if you feel like reading some of that
― j., Sunday, 7 June 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^ I really couldn't put it any better than this
IIRC Seattle & Los Angeles PDs have recently adopted policies specifically geared towards changing this (by holding police accountable [at least in theory] for their decisions & actions prior to the actual split-second decision re: use of deadly force) but idk if any officers have actually faced sanctions as a result
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
... but obviously, it would take a complete overhaul of our police force & healthcare system to really deal with mental illness in a productive way
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE
cop starts waving his gun around at 3'10"
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Sunday, 7 June 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
pigs
http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/texas-police-officer-suspended-after-pulling-weapon-on-teens?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.niqy8qkQK
― j., Sunday, 7 June 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
there's a long list of things i'd like to do to that cop.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
what a terrible human being
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link
This is more "correctional facility brutality" but I am disheartened that this story is the first I remember reading about his young man: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/kalief-browder-1993-2015
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah I've been following his story since that first new yorker article -- such a heartbreaking end for a young man who demonstrated so much resilience in the face of adversity
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
Ta-Nehisi Coates writes about him:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/the-brief-and-tragic-life-of-kalief-browder/395156/
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
xp I hate to say this because ugh, respectability politics, but... I hold out some (naive?) hope that Kalief Browder's tragedy might touch even those who dismiss Eric Garner & Michael Brown because they were 'no angels'
of course that's little consolation to his family, & none whatsoever to Kalief himself. RIP to a brave young man who was forced to go through hell and did everything in his power to make it through :(
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/06/08/police-officer-who-shot-walter-scott-indicted-for-murder/?postshare=361433779540588
good news
― j., Monday, 8 June 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Who knew that South Carolina would be the state that was a leader on indicting police for murder?
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
leader on covering their ass when there's a video that no one could ever lie away
― j., Monday, 8 June 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
as opposed to New York
― DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
plenty of videos get lied away
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
read the url as "police-officer-who-shot-scott-walker"
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 June 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
wishful thinking
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
oh, Bratton
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/bratton-hiring-black-nypd-officers-criminal-records
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/us/texas-officer-was-under-stress-when-he-arrived-at-pool-party-lawyer-says.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
honestly a quiet resignation and apology seems like the best thing imo
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
that Texas cop was obviously playing some kind of combat hero in his own mind, witness the ridiculous and pointless barrel roll he did while running to the scene of the "crime"
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
surprised he didn't twirl his gun around on his index finger honestly
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
i mean it's possible to feel for him if he really did go through that shit earlier in the day and still think that if he can't handle that without abusing people he has no business being a cop and probably should be in heavy therapy
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
I like how that other cop was being chill with that other dude in the background. heard a couple "are you alright's" I think
― Spottie, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
I do have legit sympathy for the cop re: the items he witnessed earlier, but to amateurist's point, it comes with the job and can't turn you into a different person later in your shift. I mean there's a reason they have the whole psych evaluation, y'know.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
Bratton backtracking / claiming to be misquoted
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:36 (eight years ago) link
“He never intended to mistreat anyone, but was only reacting to a situation and the challenges that it presented,” Ms. Bishkin said. “He apologizes to all who were offended.”
He pulled a gun on children. I can't stop thinking about how much worse it could have gotten.
― ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link
It goes a lot deeper than taking offence.
― ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link
standard non-apology apology
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link