HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

so there's like Winter with a capital double-u ice age winter and then regular annual lower-case winters?

that makes sense

thats what i think

In the books, does Littlefinger tell Cersei that Arya and Ramsay are about to be wed? I loved that detail in the show, but it doesn't seem like it would make sense with Arya since she didn't have a part in Joffrey's death.

Like, if Andrea Dworkin wrote a fantasy epic intended to address gender/sexual politics it would by necessity be chockfull of sexual violence, romance would be shown to be an empty cover story for exploitation and degradation, and it would undoubtedly be really unpleasant, kinda like GoT. Martin's politics do seem to lean left and he has done a fair amount to promote women in the industry etc. but it feels like there's a a disparity between those elements of his personality and the sort of lurid way sexual violence is handled in his material.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 20, 2015

been thinking about this post and it is def not meaningful in any large way but still somehow jumps to mind that mzb turned out to be an irl-creep/possible monster

who is mzb

Marion Zimmer Bradley, probably?

ah of course

I don't remember there being a bunch of sexual violence in Mists of Avalon (which my gf at the time made me read) but maybe I'm forgetting something

Uh wow, I did not hear about MZB!! Sad because I really liked MOA.

i do not do not do not want to make this the mzb horrorshow thread but it's googleable

mzb google is legit bummertown usa, like chemical-brain-wash afterwards kind of reading

i was a fan & i still don't know what to do with that

Kinda curious how this particular type of tv audience would respond to Oz. Rape was a major part of that show and I ended up feeling sorry for characters I didn't previously think possible. Peter Schibetta got it really rotten.

yeah, i want to be sympathetic to people who are bristling about this rape scene but i'm struggling to see how it makes a lot of sense given the nature of this show. it's been established that it's a brutal, violent world and horrific things happen on a regular basis. TV Show Sansa has been rolled together with another character in the books and that character is abused to an even further extent. how would we even know at this point that it's gratuitous being completely unaware of what happens down the line? it wasn't filmed in a questionable manner either, it demonstrated the brutality of the act without doing it in some creepy, sexualized way.

is rape not a thing that should be broached in fiction, art, whatever? is all the other heinous shit that happens in this show OK?

I was annoyed with it on a couple of levels, but mostly because the scene seemed to be more "about" Theon/Reek than Sansa. Which really just made the rape seem like a cheap plot device. But we'll see how next week shakes out, I guess?

that Mary Sue article was bizarre. Writer claims to be fan of the books, knows about the much worse rape scene that this one is somewhat based on, and yet is so scandalized by the scene that the site is going to stop "promoting" the tv show. Why not give up on the whole series, books and all, after reading GRRM's rape scene? I can only imagine it's because this happened to Sansa, who seemingly was taking back control of her destiny, going goth and all.

i don't know how to articulate the reaction bcz it's one I share but i am not really into the way it's being interrogated itt

i mean, i know you all like lengthy chin-scratching posts about whys and yes-but-what-if

but it's also kinda removed & feels a bit like "kicking the rape-can around"

i'm not saying don't interrogate, but just know that not everyone is up for dissection of rape in the media or good rape vs bad rape

and i am gonna have to bail until the next episode airs & hopefully yall move on

every time i see the new high sparrow my mind goes BRAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZIIILL WHERE HEARTS WERE ENTERTAINING JUNE

I mostly remember the Lexus commercials

Infiniti.

May I request a new thread? This thing crashes whatever browser I try to read it on whenever I try and go back to load an entire week's worth of commentary. Possibly tomorrow or Saturday, so we catch all of this week's talk and then move to the new one for episode 7?

use bookmarks

tbf its not far away from 10,000 - it might be reasonable to do a part 2

I get that, but I can't even get to the point where I can want to put a bookmark. This muhufucker is unwieldy!

Yeah it seems a bit mad that we're still on the first thread, considering this is probably the most talked about show on the board and is in its fifth season.

At this point we might as well finish the season though.

surely the Wire has more threads/posts

xxp

Just cut your losses and bookmark at the current end of this thread!

You're not missing a whole lot imo.

surely the Wire has more threads/posts

xxp

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:08 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol u literally never stop

You're not missing a whole lot imo.

― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:13 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was being serious! There are a ton of Wire threads - for individual seasons, character polls, threads where posters "talk like a character from the Wire", etc. - to say nothing of all the threads that compare the Wire to other shows.

xxp

Just cut your losses and bookmark at the current end of this thread!

― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:12 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're not missing a whole lot imo.

― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:13 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha was abt to make these exact posts

all those sand snakes zings gone forever

Gone like snakes in an hourglass

so are the games of our thrones

Mad Men seems to be getting more discussion for each recent episode than this entire GoT season.

All in the game of thrones yo, all in the game.

amanda marcotte on sansa plotline controversy

Bullshit. Thinking something is wrong for more than one reason is not the same as 'moving the goalposts'. And the idea that the scene is actually subversive, as if Game of Thrones is the first culture in the world that constantly punishes women. Read a comic book. Also, the idea that the rape was the same, but just to another person. It is not the same. Those are two different persons. It's two different rapes. And if we really want to go into it, in the show, Jeyne Pool is still captured, she is still being tormented somewhere, just not at Winterfell. We don't see it, no, but neither did we 'see' Ramsey rape her in the book. They invented more torment of a person that wasn't tormented before, they didn't just move some torment around. And why the fuck does this show keep on having to invent more torment for it's female characters? What sick impulse is this?

Marcotte and Alyssa Rosenberg otm

The impulse of making a show about the horrors of sexual inequalities.

as if Game of Thrones is the first culture in the world that constantly punishes women. Read a comic book.

Bronze Age
Iron Age
Cerebus Age

This is actually very good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=zs7xO5P3Az4

self fulfilling prophecy there methinks

lol Keyes

like the show, this thread is mostly a lot of bullshitting but nothing really happening

what is supposed to happen in a thread?

with occasional shocking brutal slaughters of key personalities

RIP lagoon

oops spoilers

dang, brutal

fuuc