TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

i think its pretty easy to screw up the formula! some significant portion of the stuff i liked about the last season was harrelson, mcconaughey, and fukunaga--without those guys idk that pizzolatto can lift his worst tendencies up

oh absolutely you can fuck up the LA noir formula, neo or otherwise (gangster squad, anybody? street kings?). but that said, his other most notable work, his novel galveston, actually succeeds well by being a nihilistic crime story w/o any weird or occult stuff. also I feel just as good about farrell mcadams and kitsch as I did about mcconaughey and harrelson, just for different reasons. (vaughn is a total coin flip.)

if it does crash and burn tho I'll absolutely eat my words.

I hope you are right! I want to believe

oh you guys are probably right, but if "formula" is taken more restrictively to be a somewhat naturalistic la noir then you'd have to take some significant risks within that framework to totally turn me off. i was prepared for the first season to be a bog standard serial killer southern gothic--which i suppose it was, just to the nth degree--but i was totally on board with that initial proposition. on the other hand NP may be that type of writer whose worst tendencies are also his best so maybe it's gonna be another high wire act.

whose worst tendencies are also his best

:)

balls

http://www.thewrap.com/cary-fukunaga-out-as-director-of-stephen-kings-it-at-new-line-exclusive/

boo

ftr his jane eyre is pretty great to look at
movie itself not the best but dude is so good at "psychological landscape"

you know what this world really needs is another adaptation of It

teens boning in the sewer is a tragically underdeveloped genre

i know this was about budget but i like to imagine he just now got to the end of the book

"ok they're lost...hmmm....king, why are you showing me this? WHY ARE YOU SHOWING ME THIS? AHHHHHHHHH"

A friend didn't believe me about the sewer scene and I found this stunning description:
"Because King didn't wish this to be viewed as a lewd scene, the narrative explicitly states that the act of intimacy with each of the boys' helps to further strengthen their friendship; and Beverly only experiences orgasm while having intercourse with Bill Denbrough and Ben Hanscom."

YES THAT DEFINITELY MAKES IT LESS LEWD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFC3ec1tI0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYBMqqKYq78

Well, at worst it's going to be great with the sound off.

message i am getting is that lighting things on fire is very important

No mustache on Colin Farrell for a sec, so maybe they will get to party like it's 2003 for a minute.

early word is...not good

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/true-detective-season-2-tv-802085

That review basically describes the last four/five episodes of the first season too.

^ those last episodes were very cursory and squandered, for me anyway, an awful lot of the excellence in the first half. That first half felt like an investigation into the nature of Rust Cohle's character/being, and by extension those testifying about him and the society they were in. All this took place in an environment and systemic political, social and cosmic antipathy or opposition, and a superbly conveyed occult unease. But the resolution was half-baked, tangential even, with blank, Kafkaesque interrogators-of-soul Kittles and Potts suddenly absent other than as flat-footed bureaucratic cops, and deus ex machina saviours at the end, and that structural or systemic opposition mainly resolved in terms of a sexual wacko with tenuous family connections.

i don't hold out much hope for Season 2 because that cosmic and occult unease was so central for me. will be watching the hell out of it anyway.

that review doesn't sound that bad tbh other than the critique of some of the lines, which do look silly on paper...but I mean have people looked at rust's monologues on paper anytime recently

it sounds quite ellroyish based on those descriptions so I'm all in

i wish i had half the confidence in farrell or vaughn that i do/did in mcconaughey or harrelson

they sounded pretty silly out loud too

Sounds like Deadwood -> John from Cincinnati, either in the expectations or the zero -> infinity rise in expectations.

er, either in the execution or the viewers' zero -> infinity rise in expectations.

matt zoller seitz of nymag/vulture had a much more positive take, he's generally a critic i trust (great mad men, americans, justified reviews) http://www.vulture.com/2015/06/review-true-detective-season-2.html?mid=twitter_vulture

i wish i had half the confidence in farrell or vaughn that i do/did in mcconaughey or harrelson

― max, Friday, June 12, 2015 8:49 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i kinda love farrell (in bruges, crazy heart, 7 psychopaths, miami vice [yea u heard me]) but i fully understand why ppl are like "uhhhh"

interestingly, seitz says vaughn is the most interesting actor of the bunch!

Farrell plays Ray Velcoro, a troubled detective (we are reminded of this a lot) whose wife (Spencer) was trying to get pregnant before being beaten and raped. Although the couple had a child nine months later, they never had a paternity test.

rmde @ this as a plot device

Yeah. Still planning to watch this tho.

Ray "Rip" Velcoro

lol

wtf

There were reports of discord between Pizzolatto and Fukunaga last season, and one of the new episodes features a visit to a film set with an Asian-American director styled to resemble Fukunaga, in a manner meant to be unflattering to one man, but which reflects more poorly on the other.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-has-true-detective-fallen-victim-to-the-sophomore-slump

lmao

"I'll come back and (violent sexual act) your (male loved one) with your (female loved one)'s headless corpse on your lawn."

worst MadLib ever

i thought i heard Fukunaga was a producer on this season.

advance reviews not being v kind to this

still gonna watch it what can i say im weak and hbo has this hold on me

rachel mcadams looks hot and angry in this

grantland gave a pretty positive review, prefaced with some dislike of the first season.

in any case I think I know what to expect, and my tolerance for that sort of thing is really high so I'll probably like it.

i think i only want to see the scene with the fukunaga doppelganger and no other scene

this being bad would not make me dislike this

still feel like a lot of critics fundamentally misunderstand what made the first season great (none of the things that would slot it into typical prestige television for one) but I need to shut up about it.

I am super excited to watch this show crash and burn, don't like that nick pizza fella one bit

interesting point from a mixed review of the new season

I'm not a person who ever had much of a problem with True Detective's self-seriousness; I'd take it any day over the winking camp of a Ryan Murphy show. There is a sincerity to Pizzolatto's writing that is admirable even when it's kind of dumb. And when the first hint of real Carcosa-esque weirdness does eventually rear its head, I sat up immediately. That wouldn't work on a show that wasn't as committed to its cause, no matter how humorless and nihilistic.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/19/8813001/true-detective-season-two-review-nic-pizzolatto-hbo

Sad cops sad cops
Whatchagonna do

farrell is on 100 thousand trillion

its totally cop goth

which one is the true detective, it is farrell right?