"The Wire" on HBO

Sopranos critiques the misogynistic mafia culture

and Sopranos does this in a LOT of other ways than just the running depiction of the Bing - see "University" for ex.

nudity at the Bing is kind of a different thing but I hardly think it's an unrealistic depiction of a strip club

Actually, it's illegal in the state of New Jersey to serve alcohol where nude dancers are present.

http://i.imgur.com/TPJZ1qg.gif

I knew that law passed in NY back in the 90s, when did that become the case in NJ?

if so that's crazy and I had no idea I take it all back

iirc the Bing is topless + alcohol, which is how it's been in every strip club I've ever been in so this didn't register as unrealistic to me my bad (I have never been in New Jersey fyi)

From well-regarded law journal "Wikipedia":

New Jersey law prohibits strip clubs and "sexually oriented business", where stripteases and erotic dances are regularly performed, from offering both full nudity and alcohol sales.[55] Establishments that possess a retail license and serve alcohol can only offer partially clothed services such as go-go dancing (typically in bikinis or lingerie).[28][56] Clubs that are not licensed to serve alcohol will work around the restriction by implementing a bring your own bottle (BYOB) policy and operating as a "juice bar". Juice bars have the appointments of full bars but only serve non-alcoholic beverages such as water, fruit juice, and flavored carbonated beverages. Such a bar could double as a service counter for the storage of BYOB material and offer ice and mixing services to create mixed drinks using the customer-purchased ingredients. Recent court decisions have held that municipalities that allow BYOB policies for restaurants must allow the same practices for strip clubs.[57][58]

While personal dances are allowed in the state, “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching,” is prohibited during those dances. The regulations also ban woman from dancing topless or bottomless at establishments with an alcohol license.

The second detective in this investigation had a similar experience at the bar with an employee named “Vicki” and later with an employee named “Jessica”. The women performed illegal dances and solicited the purchase of an alcoholic beverage.

thanks for the new dn

http://i.imgur.com/qkZHoc0.gif

Thank god this show wasn't called American Wire.

lol

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching,”

Wait, is Shakey arguing for only yucky sex on TV? ;)

true that every sex scene in this is a ridiculous horror

― goole, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:09 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like, to the point where i wonder if they weren't staged and shot ineptly but contemptuously

― goole, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:10 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my own personal conspiracy theory is that HBO has a boob quota, and the wire team filled it by staging every sex scene for minimum libidinal and maximum humiliation value for everyone involved.

Seems like they were mostly released from the quota after the first season or two when they became the lead Respectable Production for HBO.

idk I found p much every sex scene involving Tony (or one his henchmen) fucking to be gross and ugly rather than titillating but ymmv

They existed and were generally with incredibly attractive women - it's kind of a shifting goalposts to say "I thought they were gross so they don't count," because you could say the same of The Wire's sex scenes. It's not like either was staging True Blood-orgies or pretty people.

I was just saying I didn't find them titillating. I would argue that in every case the scenes served a dramatic or narrative function.

Rome taught me that landing strips were a Roman invention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoyq88niVEU

LOL

p much covers the show's aesthetic

haha

Just got through the whole thing and enjoyed 1st 4 seasons.
5 only seems to get any good when Lehane writes his episode.
Just seems hollow until then or something. Like they've got character sketches for people who've been better embodied earlier and are moving them around in an unconvincing story.
Sad, just seems so lacking beside other seasons.

I was thinking about this season 5 scene where McNulty confronts Templeton: https://youtu.be/i98zHfCZQO8

Kind of a dumb scene, isn't it? What does McNulty have to gain from this? He's safe as long as Templeton has to maintain the lie, but what if Templeton gets caught? Then he'd have no reason not to spill the beans on McNulty.

Maybe the point is that McNulty is being increasingly reckless, but it's played as though he's delivering a smackdown.

he's at the end of his rope at that point and i think he seriously does not give a fuck and thus goes with his impulse. this being mcnulty, he's ego-driven enough to think that it /is/ a complete smackdown.

so much lol @ that tautology supercut

Arh, nice! The way they vary the use of tautologies. Best. Show. Ever.

Best ever show ever.

Good show, nothing more.

it did what it did

the best stay the best

lol

show's influence lives on

http://qm-coorpration-channel.wikia.com/wiki/HBO_Slogans

October 1996–April 2009: "It's Not TV. It's HBO."[127]
2006–2009: "Get More" (slogan for the HBO website)
April 2009–present: "It's More Than You Imagined. It's HBO."
2010–2011: "This is HBO." (only used for IDs)
2011–2014: "It's HBO."

HBO is HBO.

doo do-doo, do-doo, do-doo-doo-doo-doo

Not quite sure what this image means but I like it:

http://i.imgur.com/DJbtn.jpg

Standard D&D Alignment chart, plus the impressively wacko step of imagining it as a noughts and crosses board for black v white.

british ppl don't call it tic tac toe?

wtf had not noticed the black v white thing o_O

but thanks for the info now it's googlable and I see there are lots of those charts https://www.google.dk/search?q=the+wire+d%26d+alignment&source=lnms&tbm=isch

Malorie Blackman reference?
http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-400/1087-1/CE6/F14/E5/%7BCE6F14E5-D390-4813-AB0C-E13D37698285%7DImg400.jpg

noughts and crosses

http://i.imgur.com/zPtMUKE.png http://i.imgur.com/zPtMUKE.png http://i.imgur.com/zPtMUKE.png

Do we have some sort of fucking problem with the idea that things are called different things in different places?

so dumb of people to change the historic name of tic-tac-toe to "noughts and crosses" two years ago

The different names of the game are more recent . The first print reference to "Noughts and crosses", the British name, appeared in 1864. In his novel "Can You Forgive Her", 1864, Anthony Trollope refers to a clerk playing "tit-tat-toe". The first print reference to a game called "tick-tack-toe" occurred in 1884, but referred to "a children's game played on a slate, consisting in trying with the eyes shut to bring the pencil down on one of the numbers of a set, the number hit being scored". "Tic-tac-toe" may also derive from "tick-tack", the name of an old version of backgammon first described in 1558. The U.S. renaming of Noughts and crosses as Tic-tac-toe occurred in the 20th century.[3]

I'm gonna go with the "tit" one.

clay davis otm

tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt

Jeez the anglocentrism, it's called ''Kryds og bolle''

Do we have some sort of fucking problem with the idea that things are called different things in different places?

― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:24 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whoa andrew farrell just got really heated about tic tac toe!!!

whoa andrew farrell just got really heated about tic tac toe noughts and crosses!!!

Sorry for my countryman's continued impertinence, he meant , please don't get mad.