The Suicide Squad Film Follies

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Really hopeful the soundtrack will have rock guys collaborating with edm guys

da croupier, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link

bass drops synced with bullets hitting flesh

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link

millennials need their own judgement night OST; it's time

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link

Also hopeful this movie will have some fun meetings ahead with the MPAA, which may still lead to this being released as THE SQUAD, as per the lego batman 3 DLC

da croupier, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link

Haha forgot about judgment night, was thinking of spawn

da croupier, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link

from the aforementioned superhero blockbuster, spawn

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

And even bigger superhero, Black Dynamite!

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

skinny Waller is still one of the grossest endemic exemplars of Didio era

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/my646vS.png

, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:41 (nine years ago) link

About as well as could be expected

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Friday, 8 May 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link

god i still can't believe dc is going to just gonna give joker a girlfriend and (allegedly) batman a dead robin four years after DKR. I realize we're all sick of rebooted origin stories, but if you're going to revamp with the story THAT far in progress...

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

and yes, many a nerdlinger knows about harley quinn and jason todd, but if the idea is to compete with the avengers you really don't want to settle for "the nerds already know this"

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

i'd almost be relieved to hear a marketing research study revealed a large untapped audience of juggalos across the planet dissatisfied with marvel's populism and lack of badass. if that wasn't also a horrifying prospect.

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

harley quinn has been a hot topic favorite for a long time ime, unless this was just long-term anticipatory marketing, which seems beyond them

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

for non-comics-fans she also counts as 90s nostalgia

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

relevant article:
http://comicsalliance.com/female-heroes-good-girl-role-models/
though i feel like it may be unfair to lump the main character from Sex Criminals in there

Nhex, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

yeah harley quinn was a pretty major character in the batman cartoon on fox in the 90s which was dope

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 8 May 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

See if they did a remake of the animated series that would be dope.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 May 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

I wager that you might feel a little differently if present day DC/WB actually did remake the animated series.

Doggy McBaby (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 May 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

Filmmaker and comic book fan Kevin Smith named his daughter after Harley Quinn; she made a cameo appearance in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back as an infant Silent Bob in the opening scene, and was recently featured in his reality television show Comic Book Men.[53] She will appear alongside Johnny Depp's daughter Lily-Rose Depp in the 2015 comedy horror film Yoga Hosers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Quinn#Cultural_impact

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

what i've always been curious about is

In 2002, a live-action television series called Birds of Prey, loosely based on the comic of the same name, included Harley Quinn as a psychotic psychiatrist and main antagonist. The character was portrayed by actress Mia Sara (replacing Sherilyn Fenn from an unaired pilot episode). The show aired only 13 episodes. In this show, she is portrayed as an older, far more calculating and sinister character than her bubbly comic and cartoon personas. Picking up where the Joker had left off, Harleen Quinzel used her day job as a therapist to achieve her savage purpose – to take control of the city of New Gotham. She does not wear a costume, although she does wear an outfit that is reminiscent of her cartoon costume in the series finale "Devil's Eyes." In that episode, she uses experimental technology to transfer metahuman mind control powers to herself. She occasionally makes reference to her "sweet Mr. J.", laments his loss as a Gotham City crime boss and hints at a past relationship reminiscent to that of the animated series.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

ferris bueller's girlfriend replacing audrey horne!

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

lol @ yoga hosers

fyi i'm aware that harley quinn was on kids tv in the 90s i SAID many a nerdlinger

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

the point is that if you're going to introduce a very different batverse to a global audience a couple years after Nolan's, you might not want to smuggle it in mid-story inside a superman and a suicide squad movie, even if many a thirtysomething has sweet afternoon memories of her

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link

eh, you're overthinking it. 90% of the audience will be like "oh, the joker's girlfriend, okay" and then "BEWBS!"

Nhex, Friday, 8 May 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

you're probably correct, in terms of 90% of the audience that will be pulled in by the promotional materials for this movie. just not in terms of 90% of the potential audience for a superhero movie.

da croupier, Friday, 8 May 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Please, DC, just one Joker dance sequence. It's all I ask.

Ape Pagoda (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 03:28 (nine years ago) link

Why is DC so bad and hated

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 03:41 (nine years ago) link

There has to be a scene where he's locked up in the county jail, alone in a cell, singing "Plush" a cappella.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link

god i still can't believe dc is going to just gonna give joker a girlfriend and (allegedly) batman a dead robin four years after DKR. I realize we're all sick of rebooted origin stories, but if you're going to revamp with the story THAT far in progress...

― da croupier, 8. toukokuuta 2015 19:08

and yes, many a nerdlinger knows about harley quinn and jason todd, but if the idea is to compete with the avengers you really don't want to settle for "the nerds already know this"

― da croupier, 8. toukokuuta 2015 19:08

Even if Nolan didn't really use him, I'm pretty sure it's commonly known (not just among nerds) that Batman has a sidekick named Robin? I mean, the final gag of Dark Knight Rises depended on the viewers knowing this fact, even though Joseph Gordon-Levitt never became a superhero during the movie. And I'm not sure why the dead Robin has to be Jason Todd? Unless they have plans of using Nightwing in the future, they could easily say it was Dick Grayson who died. I'm pretty sure they want to avoid the whole "multiple Robins" thing, so the movies won't get too convoluted.

I do agree that it's a bit weird to start the reboot with Batman so far in his career, but OTOH Batman is pretty much the best-known superhero there is, and his origin story is fairly simple, so there isn't really any need to rehash it. And there are a kazillion action movies where the protagonists actions are motivated by the death of someone in their past, so in this case they'd just be using Robin instead of Thomas and Martha Wayne to provide that motivation.

I still suspect this movie will suck, as do most of Snyder's films, but I don't think continuity issues will be the reason for that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 07:18 (nine years ago) link

Please, DC, just one Joker dance sequence. It's all I ask.

jokerdoesthefutterwacken.gif

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 08:46 (nine years ago) link

Harley Quinn's not really more obscure than Hawkeye, is she? is she even less known than the Suicide Squad itself? her being in this movie is the least of its problem, if it's even a problem at all.

some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:51 (nine years ago) link

She is by far the most famous thing about it (apart from Mr J) - croupier's universe where 90s kids TV consumption makes you a nerdlinger is utterly bizarre.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:19 (nine years ago) link

Even among comic nerds, Suicide Squad used to be more of a cult favourite than a big seller. But AFAIK a version of them has been introduced in the Arrow TV series (I quit watching it, so I haven't seen episodes featuring them), which might've raised their profile? Though I've no idea how popular Arrow is...

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:24 (nine years ago) link

But yeah, Joker and Harley Quinn are way more well-known than any other SS members; the whole point of the series was to use mostly C-list villains, so any of them could be killed for real, which you obviously can't do with someone like Joker.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:26 (nine years ago) link

Though ironically enough, the SS comic itself made some of its characters (like Deadshot) popular enough that they were guaranteed not to die.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:29 (nine years ago) link

And I think the same is gonna happen with this movie: among the characters you have two popular Batman villains, one semi-popular Batman villain, one semi-popular Batman ally, a few characters who have become popular because of the Suicide Squad comics... and a couple of guys almost no one has ever heard of. So it's not hard to guess which of them are going to die.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:36 (nine years ago) link

The ones played by Adam Beach and Jay Hernandez....

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

waiting for teen heart-throb jared leto to shamelessly plug his band as the soundtrack

don't let it be a missed opportunity, jare

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

i still can't believe the Dallas Buyers Club sdtk had a 30 Seconds To Mars song on it. like, it doesn't get worse than that.

some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

just since people still seem confused, my point isn't that Harley Quinn and Robin are obscure parts of the batverse, but that they're almost oppositional to the one that was just in theaters a couple years ago. When you're trying to compete with a franchise as huge as marvel, where making $200m globally like Watchmen and Green Lantern did qualifies you as a bomb, because Marvel's working at the 700m-1.2billion level, dramatically changing the batstory - not with a new batmovie, but within a superman sequel and a suicide squad movie, seems at odds with getting EVERYBODY on board.

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

but really these choices are symbolic of the bigger problem that DC just doesn't have a goddamn clue

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I cannot wait for the inevitable book about the behind the scenes shenanigans currently taking place at DC/WB. You know there are people on the inside who are just as perplexed as the rest of us by the decisions currently being made.

Ape Pagoda (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

i liked the explanation floated that they simply don't have a kevin feige - someone superinformed and respectful of the marvel legacy that speaks also speaks franchise producer-ese. Instead, Warner Bros - already in a weird bakesale mode that leads to movies with 100m budgets where Johnny Depp lives in an iPad - is throwing everything against the wall in film and tv, hoping SOMETHING sticks the way Nolan did.

It's been this way for ages - they scrapped an unrelated George Miller run Justice League movie with Armie Hammer as Batman when Nolan's movies grew legs. But the new wrinkle on the problem is thanks to Marvel's "here's how we're going to make a couple billion over the next five years" fanfare, Warner Bros shareholders want THEIR superheroverse to point at the bleachers. So they announce a flash movie that has nothing to do with the flash TV show. They've got Supergirl set to air AT THE SAME HOUR as Gotham, which may benefit CBS or Fox in terms of bragging rights but clearly not WB.

The good news for fans of cinematic art is that people like David Ayer and Zack Snyder are getting WAY more free reign than Marvel hands do, because DC is hungry for a visionary. The bad news is that I just said David Ayer and Zack Snyder.

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

the alternate reality where george miller is christopher nolan in terms of influencing the dc cinematic universe sure looks sweet now, doesn't it

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link


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