bran is already done hence his absence and sansa is done but now being repurposed. i think everyone else has enough book story for the rest of the season.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Dude I am on the West Coast, I wish the entire Eastern seaboard would get swallowed up into the Atlantic already!
I like the Meerene stuff, I wish it were expanded on!
I dunno, it all feels like boring cloak-and-dagger, betrayal for memeification's sake.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
What makes Bran "done"?
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
That's like saying Brienne was "done" when she made it to King's Landing with Jaime, or similarly when Tyrion made it back there himself earlier in the show.
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
done as in, his plotline has not moved further in the published books than where it's at in the tv show
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
It's still spoiling things to talk about what is not going to happen fyi
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
OH, right
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
xpost
the question was asked and answered. As Spiralli pointed out, Sansa's story has been repurposed. Same could happen for Bran too, who knows?
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
i dunno man it's still a drag.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
just think, first episode could be tyrion and dany until they (presumably) meet.
I was telling my wife that if the shows pace is indicative of anything, these two will finally meet in the second to last episode of the season..
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
i doubt they will meet this season
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
they'll just text
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
Certain characters are diverging widely from the books at this point.
The producers have also said that some characters won't be in this season at all and also that some plot lines will be going beyond the books, based on Martin's outlines (i.e. the show will now be 'spoiling' the books).
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
also a Veep crossover episode
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
^^ I'm ready for this
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
The show's political scheming was always my favourite part, but when you have frozen zombies and wizards there will necessarily be shaky attempts to juggle the tonal differences between "Giants attacking a wall to flee White Walkers" and "lady is pretty upset her lover was killed in a duel".
But it's still there, and I like that this season might be reorienting to that a bit outside of King's Landing. The Sansa stuff is potentially great, and I'm at the point where I assume any character that looks like they can outmaneuver someone won't (we need twists!) but in the case of Sansa v Littlefinger v Roose, it's very interesting. Roose is pretty canny but it's hard to tell just how good he is, but even if he's at his best he has that Edward I>Edward II problem of a good leader and strategic thinker being stuck with an absolute waste of a "son", which has the feel of epic, dynastic tragedy that is best when borne out of muddy political shenanigans.
I think the pace of the show is good overall, especially as it still gives time over to character backstory monologues that were the salvation of the first however many episodes of the first season. Regardless, this show theoretically only has 27 episodes left and I'm glad it's still taking its time rather than rushing headlong to resolve all the set up.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link
What was the point of the Gendry storyline? It was developing in a possibly intriguing political shake-up style direction then just got literally pushed out to sea and abandoned.
― Evan, Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
I had been wondering that, I've no idea where Gendry even is at this point.
Looking forward to shit kicking off at Winterfell. This whole thing is feeling increasingly like a Varys and Littlefinger chess game and I'm enjoying it a lot but could do with some action quite soon.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Feel like the Gendry and Brotherhood storylines fell down a memory hole at the exact same time.
― klonman, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
hope Brienne doesn't fall in a similar hole. they've spent a good amount of time with her this season so i'm expecting some Tarth action.
― mizzell, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
the story about her and renly was kinda adorable and explained alot
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it's quite inevitable but I'm worried/excited about favourite characters eventually fighting each other, like Brienne vs Davos. Kinda felt that way about Brienne vs Hound but generally so far it's been clear who the audience is rooting for.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
― Evan, Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:56 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it m/l served its purpose, stannis wanted to kill davos over it but knew he'd need him once he realized he had to go north of the wall, that's about it. i wouldnt be surprised if he showed up in some small capacity
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
I figured he'd turn up as a blacksmith in some small northern town like Hotpie in that pub.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
Hotpie was probably the single most pointless character who wasn't one of Bran's kru.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
I kinda liked him. He hardly distracted the plot.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
a lot of these "pointless" characters aren't really pointless, but serve to illustrate how major characters view themselves, treat others,are good/bad, etc.
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/joedempsie/status/479055824414076928
― groovypanda, Friday, 1 May 2015 06:40 (nine years ago) link
Well, at least I got to see a little actual Barristan Selmy action. That's all I'd wanted this whole time.
"Sand snakes" actors all seem kinda... shitty.
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link
The most I've ever been taken out of a scene by bad acting. The staging and theatrics didn't help.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 4 May 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
Well, at least I got to see a little actual Barristan Selmy action. That's all I'd wanted this whole time."Sand snakes" actors all seem kinda... shitty. --Evan
"Sand snakes" actors all seem kinda... shitty. --Evan
guess ur not a whale rider fan your loss
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link
haha
seriously though that entire scene was forced as shit
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link
loved it, loved the whole ep, possibly the best of the season thus far
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 05:14 (nine years ago) link
sand snakes are great little bit of hesitance to the line readings but that shouldn't really mess with people's enjoyment imo!
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link
Heads and shoulders the best episode of the season
― Clay, Monday, 4 May 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link
stannis' speech to his daughter had me tearing up a bit, not something that I'd ever really thought would happen on this show & especially bc of something stannis said!
― Clay, Monday, 4 May 2015 06:37 (nine years ago) link
After a little searching I found a bit of innernette that validates my reaction to the sand snakes scene. Looks like tsrobodo and I aren't alone:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/34s5ri/s5e4_the_sand_snakes/
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:01 (nine years ago) link
stannis speech made me think he's gonna die soon.
sand snakes scene and the fight scene were some mst3k type stuff. though i cant really complain too much, as i like it when the show embraces its own silliness.
but this season is a slog so far.
― ryan, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:21 (nine years ago) link
redditors lean toward hot takes tho, especially where stuff for teh nerds is involved
I'm sure that you guys just were rubbed the wrong way by the scene which is totally fine, of course, but for me it feels symptomatic (in a tangential way) of some people still not being quite able to take this show seriously and suspend disbelief w/o being shaken out of it by various things. perhaps it stems from the urge to memeify everything
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:25 (nine years ago) link
(xp)
in the micro sense it could've been a bit better but the dornish (those related to oberyn anyhow) have been set up (even to non-book viewers) as kinda self serious and intense, it seems in keeping with what I would expect of them.
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link
in closing, I think things are accelerating now! jorah's presence is a wrinkle in tyrion's journey and not a detour. jaime in dorne is about to run into a lot of trouble. the faith militant are going buckwild in a single episode. the sons of the harpy attack was brutal and I don't think anyone expected them to move that fast or that boldly
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link
agreed upthread, the dorne scenes have thus far been either uninteresting or unintentionally hilarious (re: sand snakes). the rest of the show does feel now to be moving toward something, which is a great improvement over the last few eps
― head clowning instructor (art), Monday, 4 May 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
I was a little annoyed with the ending faight scene as well in that, in my opinion, it would take at least that many experienced/trained fighters to overwhelm an elite group of unsullied, Grey Worm AND Selmy (even old man Selmy), and I'd prefer it require at least twice the amount of losers in masks with daggers. Even with them trapped in an alleyway. Sons of the Harpy were too formidable... feel like you'd need a much bigger swarm of them. Unsullied didn't even lock into any cool formations. Booooo.
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link
it's a narrow passageway! in a city the unsullied are still learning the ins and outs of vs. an enemy with the element of surprise and the inspiration of fundamentalist rage
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 4 May 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link
― slothroprhymes, Monday, May 4, 2015 8:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm taken out of it when in one scene the acting is fantastic (Stannis, Tyrion) and then in the next devolves into NCIS corniness (sand snakes). Hopefully their scenes improve! I'll remain hopeful.
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Passageway wasn't that narrow, whatever.
It's just all those guys were so hyped throughout the series that I wanted them to be just a little more resilient vs. a gang of masked noobs with daggers.
― Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
obv. a Black Hawk Down scenario
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
yeah the unsullied/harpy flight was definitely lame given that it was supposed to be elite troops vs citizens. and worm and barry were just thrown away, no real narrative importance or dramatic impact. it was just, hey guess what these guys died.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 4 May 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
i'm guessing the narrative importance is that Jorah is on his way back and Dani is down a couple of allies
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link