Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

people open and close the josie drawer

Congrats on watching a masterpiece. A lesser Lynch inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy9C80NIk2o

Yeah there's a reason Laura's doppelgänger cousin is called Madeleine

I <3 dick tremayne

I would have dearly loved for a third season to revisit that most unimpeachable of s2 plotlines, the s2 plotline "Norma's mother comes to stay"

Ken Burns style doc on the Ben Horne civil war

@david_lynch Dear Twitter Friends, the rumors are not what they seem ..... It is !!!
Happening again. #TwinPeaks returns on @SHO_Network

:D

Cool but uhh is he gonna be directing?

i love how there are already like 50 click-bait "articles" whose entire new content is just reposting lynch's tweet.

confirmation from showtime:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/david-lynch-says-twin-peaks-showtime-revival-is-happening-1201498131/

Showtime president David Nevins confirmed the news minutes later.

“David will direct the whole thing which will total more than the originally announced nine hours, ” Nevins said

YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!

Awesome

Wooooooo!

i wonder what was in those scripts that boosted the cost so high. maybe they were putting in too many wantonly destructive car chases? or lots of owl CGI?

Yeah, I'm really curious about that. Also sounds like Lynch was pushing this a little longer than the agreed upon hour count.

“David will direct the whole thing which will total more than the originally announced nine hours, ” Nevins said

I'm imagining him saying this like all sweaty, running his hands through his hair, mumbling Oh God as he walks away.

must have wanted no constraints on episode length. would be great if some of them are like, 75 minutes for no reason

man, what if this turns out to be like 9+ hours of inland empire?

Pretty much the greatest news. I was half expecting Inland Empire to be the end as far as long form movie/tv/whatever is concerned. Really excited to see how his current sensibilities mesh with Frost and the Peaks world. One of THE great filmmakers at the tail end of his career getting a 9+ hour opus. If he's still capable of doing the things he did in IE, this will be something fucking else.

I mean is 9 hours of Inland Empire in Twin Peaks a bad thing?

Also can't forget Frost is involved and will likely temper him slightly.

dont think the lamestreamers who like twin peaks for the "damn good cup of coffee" quirky stuff are gonna be down with 9 hours of weird cinema terror

^Also possibly why Showtime balked. IDK, the Frost element still makes me think this will only be a couple degrees more extreme than the Lynch directed episodes in the original run.

fire walk w me p extreme iirc

yeah, but it's just a warm-up for Inland Empire really, in terms of narrative, visual, and tonal disjunctions

fwwm is totally extreme and also all the people who are like "lol the lady has a log and the people eat pie luv this show" hate and ignore fwwm.

Oh wow, yeah, I always thought FWWM was basically all Lynch's thing.

itt REAL twin peaks heads

lol fair enough i'm just sayin if this is full inland empire the drop in ratings b/w episodes 1 and 2 could be pretty ugly

This is great to hear right now since over the last two weeks I've been in full on twin peaks immersion mode, watching the whole series for the first time in about fifteen years, reading the secret diaries book which was actually pretty great, and listening to shit tons of the soundtrack stuff they released from the archive a few years ago. The show was a whole lot more emotional for me than last time I watched it. Gonna watch fire walk with me tonight.

Frost and Engels credited as cowriters for FWWM. It seemed like such a full on Lynch thing, always thought it was just him running away with it. So yeah, this could totally be Inland Empire in the woods. Don't mind me, had a few beers and shooting the shit.

i love inland empire but i think david lynch has a decent understanding of what makes twin peaks work well

Inland Empire is cool plus I think ppl are a lot more open to weird anti-TV nowadays than ever before.

xp

Debatable. FWWM is, uh, controversial. I'm a Lynch stan and I think it's one of his weakest films. Not a popular opinion around here, I know.

Showtime shows frequently look cheap and lousy, i'm more inclined to believe that they were initially stingy than that the guy who made Eraserhead demanded an extravagant production budget

I trust that David will know what to do: follow his instincts. I really don't care how this turns out, it will be worth watching regardless.

Showtime is Premium Cable. For a one-season show, ratings don't matter.

I don't expect this to be anything like Inland Empire. I expect he will take a queue for shows like True Detective and do a more modern, darker take on the original with lots of Lynchian flourishes. I doubt it will be super artsy or obscure.

there best be some 'damn good coffee and hot!' isms in this thing!

Twin peaks is back, and this time it's... actually back?

This whole thing has been crazy, would love to know just what's been happening behind the scenes this last 6 weeks. I guess we'll find out one day.

probably a lot of grandstanding over dollars

I'm about as interested in what's happening behind the scenes as I was the James sideplot in season 2.

Immersion continues. Finished fwwm this morning and just finished The Missing Pieces a few minutes ago. I understand why he cut some of these, especially the ones that don't directly feed Laura's story, but Jesus Christ at least half of them are fucking essential and add so much resonance to the movie. Was the fan edit the regular movie with these scenes interpolated in the appropriate places?

it's been hard to track down. the added stuff with Bowie at the very least seems in retrospect to be completely necessary because that scene has never made a lick of sense; not that it makes that much more sense with the deleted stuff but there is more context and you find out where he goes.

(the fan-edit has been hard to track down, I meant. . . . the person who did it took it off the 'net pretty quickly for some reason or other)

i was gonna say, i'm not sure that you /want/ fire walk with me to make more than a lick of sense.

I recently got the Twin Peaks: The Entire Mystery blu-ray set and just started working my way through it. I'm only a few episodes in, so the material is fairly strong, but I'm kind of dreading diving into season 2. It's so long!

One thing that's really been standing out to me is how much the melodrama tropes are amplified and pushed to the forefront in a very exaggerated manner. I'm wondering if season 3 is also going to go heavy with that retro melodrama style or if it will be more in line with modern gritty mystery shows.

The romantic ecstasy angle is so elementally important to what tp is, not just romantic = love scene sense but in the capital r sense, the terrible beauty of nature and death

Biggest diff between my late 90s rewatch and the one I just did is the stuff that last time made me go "oh lol irony ott" this time made tears well up in my eyes

https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt7zffUE2N1r3i5wxo1_540.png

Something I've noticed about Lynch's work (specifically his last couple of films) is that, once I've watched it a time or two and worked through the knots and the winding and the twisting, there's a pretty deep emotional core that, yeah, is pretty affecting. It's more surface-level with his mainstream work (The Elephant Man made me cry, for sure).

The romantic ecstasy angle is so elementally important to what tp is, not just romantic = love scene sense but in the capital r sense, the terrible beauty of nature and death

otm (& not just in twin peaks)

simultaneity of apparent lol irony & profound sincerity of melodrama unique to lynch, key to his work's power (inducing existential vertigo, access to the real)

related to effectiveness of his musical choices too